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post #3061 of 4714

Having paired the X1 with an E17 (with and without an E09k), a Creative SBZ, an X-Fi XtremeMusic, and a HRT Microstreamer, I will only conclude on thing regarding the difference between the DACs... they aren't really as substansial as I thought it would be.

 

In theory, the HRT Microstreamer should sound the best but it doesn't. The SBZ on the other hand is a touch warmer than the E17 and the XtremeMusic sounds thin and fairly neutral. The E17 to me sounded the most balanced, I particularly drop the bass to -2 and +2 on the treble through the EQ on the E17. This to me did eliminate a little bit of the bass bloat which was my biggest gripe (and it's also a minor one) I had with the X1, it's now at the level where I like it to be.

 

That being said, do I hear a huge difference between 4 different DACs? No. It's noticeable, but it's subtle enough that I couldn't care less and be too anal about it. Life is stressful enough already when the next thing I do not want to worry about is being too picky over something so small, just enjoy the music (and games, and movies).

post #3062 of 4714

How does driving it directly through the laptop compare to these DAC/Amps? Could you give a relative rating out of 10 just so I could get a feel for the improvements (I've never actually used a DAC/amp before, totally new to this). 1 being the rating of mp3s listened directly from an ipod with the default earbuds and 10 being the ultimate headphone experience.

 

Could you rate:

 

1) X1+Laptop

2) X1+ any of the DAC/amps you've tried it with

 

Thanks,

Tom


Edited by PTom - 10/30/13 at 1:37pm
post #3063 of 4714

UPS man just dropped mine off a few mins ago. Opened the box and was loving the new car smell. :)   Going to try and patiently wait for my Mediabridge cable to arrive in a few days before I give them a proper try. 

post #3064 of 4714
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Custom Headset GEAR / Connection Cable with Gooseneck Microphone: http://europe.beyerdynamic.com/shop/hah/accessories/custom-headset-gear.html

 

 

Got an email back from Beyerdynamic about this detachable microphone re it's impedance (a bit anal of me but there you go:smile:):

 

The guys from our R&D department told me today that the impedance of the cable must be much below 1 Ohm. If you have further questions don’t hesitate to contact me.

 

Best Regards,

 

Joscha Kretschmann, B.A.

Product and Marketing Manager Headphones

 

OK, I know it's expensive at $70 and I wouldn't be using it all the time, but do you guys think it would fit the X1 with such a wide collar at the jack? The other option is a V=Moda Boom Pro or a Reloop RHM-10 (Modmics are still waiting for their new version).

 

Radioshack has a $10 one "auvio boom mic". I have the Vmoda cable, but if I had seen the radioshack one, I would have purchased it first.

 

-Erik

post #3065 of 4714
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Looks like I'll be getting the Monoprice cable, after I test out my Mediabridge cable. I have a sneaking suspicion that the Mediabridge cable shares the same OEM with Monoprice and other brands. They look identical save for the branding on the plugs. The plugs are identical.

 

Ugh, I wish I would have seen this post before spending a little more for a Mediabridge cable on eBay. Oh well... 

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Ugh, I wish I would have seen this post before spending a little more for a Mediabridge cable on eBay. Oh well... 
mediabridge is like $10 - how much cheaper is monoprice?
post #3067 of 4714
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mediabridge is like $10 - how much cheaper is monoprice?

 

The 10ft monoprice (w/shipping) goes for almost six bucks (to my zip). I paid $15 for the 8ft mediabridge on ebay. The difference certainly won't bankrupt me lol, but I could have still saved a few bucks.

post #3068 of 4714
Ah it's only $10 on amazon - I guess free shipping is only prime
post #3069 of 4714

The funny thing is that I have so many of these cables lying around but I still bought the one from Media Bridge without thinking about it.

post #3070 of 4714
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Originally Posted by PTom View Post
 

How does driving it directly through the laptop compare to these DAC/Amps? Could you give a relative rating out of 10 just so I could get a feel for the improvements (I've never actually used a DAC/amp before, totally new to this). 1 being the rating of mp3s listened directly from an ipod with the default earbuds and 10 being the ultimate headphone experience.

 

Could you rate:

 

1) X1+Laptop

2) X1+ any of the DAC/amps you've tried it with

 

Thanks,

Tom

 

I'm not going to rate them on a number scale, simply because it goes back to my point: the difference isn't significant enough to warrant a "HOLY CRAP!!! this DAC BLOWS everything out of the water! The X1 sounds like has a new soul in it!" sort of an improvement.

 

IMO, it goes down to your usage. If you are going to be primarily using the X1 with a PC, the SBZ is a good choice or even a Xonar STX.

If you don't need a soundcard then the HRT Microstreamer would seem like a very obvious pick indeed and it isn't a bad choice either.

If you want something more versatile, the E17 is the one to go for.

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Well the SQ ratings are more so that I can get a feel for the improvements between directly driving through the laptop and using a DAC/amp. I've only used the Fidelio X1 through my Laptop with integrated sound and I've never actually listened to any headphones with a DAC/amp.


Edited by PTom - 10/31/13 at 7:34am
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Originally Posted by PTom View Post
 

Well the SQ ratings are more so that I can get a feel for the improvements between directly driving through the laptop and using a DAC/amp. I've only used the Fidelio X1 through my Laptop with integrated sound and I've never actually listened to any headphones with a DAC/amp.

I got your PM asking for ratings, so here's some of setups I've heard. Take this as an overall sound rating (doesn't take other factors like comfort into account), not genre specific - once you get into genres, different setups will really pull ahead/lag behind. Still making revisions as I go along, take EVERYTHING with a grain of salt, just one person's opinion for reference etc.

 

Rating (1 - 10) Setup
1 ipod + earbuds
4 iphone 5 + Fidelio L1
5 MacBook + Fidelio X1
5.25 E17 + Fidelio X1
6.25 SBZ/Project Starlight + Fidelio X1
6.75 SBZ/Project Starlight + HiFiMAN HE400 (EQ applied)
8 Schiit Mjolnir + Mr. Speakers Alpha Dog
8.25 SBZ/Project Starlight + Fostex TH600
9.25 Woo Audio WA7 (tube PSU) + HiFiMAN HE500
9.25 ALO Studio Six + Sennheiser HD800
10 ?? Fabled Aural Nirvana ??

Edited by ethan7000 - 10/31/13 at 8:27am
post #3073 of 4714
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Originally Posted by PTom View Post
 

Well the SQ ratings are more so that I can get a feel for the improvements between directly driving through the laptop and using a DAC/amp. I've only used the Fidelio X1 through my Laptop with integrated sound and I've never actually listened to any headphones with a DAC/amp.


Note that the rating I gave you before is based on my personal taste. If I give the X1 90 with aune x1 and silver cable, it doesn't mean that You will also give 90 for the combination.

Maybe your taste is different than mine. My advice if you want to be safe, just use E17.

Also, The score I give is for the potential of what the X1 can give to me, not saying that the X1 is better sounding than other more refined cans (like HD650 imo)

post #3074 of 4714
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Originally Posted by PTom View Post
 

Well the SQ ratings are

 

This is why vendors have return policies, how about instead of endlessly asking for ratings...which tbh is pointless from person to person. Just dive in and get a budget dac like say the E17 which has repeatedly been recommended...if you don't like it or do not perceive a jump in quality worth the price it cost then send it back and you are just out a few shipping bucks. At least then you will actually know instead of repeatedly insisting everyone arbitrarily rate their own personal listening experiences with amp/dac and headphone.

 

It's very nice that people have obliged your requests but if you really think about it there are hundreds of variables to take in that could make a recommendation or rating completely irrelevant to you.

post #3075 of 4714

Hi people. I got my new X1's today. One question; do the pads stop feeling so prickly and uncomfortable? I can't take any more :-/


Edited by Torashin - 10/31/13 at 10:10am
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