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post #286 of 4958
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

When you say tight, you mean it won't take over 45cm?

 

Yep for my head X1's need the absolute maximum stretching, my ears are just inside the cups. I don't see any way to bend or strech. Please bear in mind that there is already considerable downforce pressure from the elastic band (yes it's nothing more elegant) at this position. So to be actually comfortable, I'd guess ones ear-to-ear measurement would have to be something like 40 cm at most.

 

I guess small chinese people designed this.

 

edit: .. especially considering none of the headphones in my profile had problems with fit.


Edited by hekeli - 10/10/12 at 8:52am
post #287 of 4958
Its useless to me then. A shame.
post #288 of 4958

Just checking back in after some weeks with the X1. While being a whole different category of a headphone than my W3000ANV i have to say that there are quite some songs that sound more involving and fun on the X1 than the W3000ANV. Technical abilities are worlds apart but fun factor is definately not.

post #289 of 4958
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Originally Posted by hekeli View Post

 

Yep for my head X1's need the absolute maximum stretching, my ears are just inside the cups. I don't see any way to bend or strech. Please bear in mind that there is already considerable downforce pressure from the elastic band (yes it's nothing more elegant) at this position. So to be actually comfortable, I'd guess ones ear-to-ear measurement would have to be something like 40 cm at most.

 

I guess small chinese people designed this.

 

edit: .. especially considering none of the headphones in my profile had problems with fit.

 

How does one measure ear-to-ear?

 

Am I correct in judging the X1 to be a fairly direct competitor to the HE-400 where price/performance is concerned?

post #290 of 4958
My assumption is to get a measuring tape, hold the end right under one ear lobe, extend the tape over your head (making sure its flat against your head) and end measure at the bottom of the other ear lobe. I got just over 46cm that way. He said 45cm is stretching the X! To its limits, so I'd say less than 44cm would probably be where you'd want your head to be size wise.
post #291 of 4958

Eh, I'm at 40-42. I should be fine. tongue.gif

post #292 of 4958

I'm so excited! I just got the X1 in Singapore for sgd$329.

But the strange thing is ... M1 and L1 are priced at sgd$430-490...

GO FIGURE!!! ..LOL... CATCH Of the Year for me!

 

 

Build quality : EXCELLENT. Comparable to HE-400.

Sound Quality : Very heavy Bass... More than HE-400.  If I had to choose.. HE-400 is the BEST! This X1 I think it's more for bass heads.. it's really flabby bass instead of the tight controlled bass I hear from HE-400. The clarity loses definitely to HE-400, AKG Q701, Fostex, Creative Aurvana.

 

My current headphones in order of preference :_

1) HE-400

2) AKG Q701

3) Fostex T50RP

4) Creative Aurvana Live!

5) Fidelio X1 (VERY GOOD FOR MOVIES! If you listen carefully, the bass actually makes you feel like you are sitting in teh middle and listening to a real hi-fi system)

6) Sennheiser hd518 

 

Come to think of it, Fidelio X1 is like a little less veiled version of Sennheiser HD518 with more flappy bass. It also does not sound open and airy. I reckon it is semi-opened at best which explains why it has more bass than a typical open-backed design. How I judge? Well, my AKG and HE-400, I can hear clearly ambient noise, but the X1 is less clear as it seems enclosed..

 

 

P/S : Using an Audinst HD-Mini DAC to a Bravo Audio V2 Tube amp.

 

Updated 12/10/2012 :- I've finally understood this is a separate category from the rest of the headphones. X1 is indeed very very accurate in representing what you hear in a hi-fi system or cinema. The bass i hear when watching movie is actually very deep and SUB-WOOFER like sound you get from the cinema. The depth and layering of details added to the immersive soundscape.  So if buyng for music, this might not be it. But for Watching Movies.. Oh boy! This is a MUST HAVE!


Edited by wj888 - 10/11/12 at 9:51am
post #293 of 4958

I got my X1's (amazon.it, 194) and I like how comfortable they are and how nice the stage is when listening to classical music and jazz. Unfortunately I have a cold at the moment so I cannot really judge the sound beyond that but I definitely like what I hear and they sound better than my L1s and SRH840s.

 

However, I don't have a proper source, currently I just connect them directly to my phone.

 

Can you suggest a good DAC & amplifier around 500 €?

 

(I would prefer my 64GB iPhone as the source for the DAC so that I am independent from my computer.)

 

Cheers


Edited by lenardgabor - 10/11/12 at 6:38am
post #294 of 4958
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Originally Posted by lenardgabor View Post

I got my X1's (amazon.it, 194) and I like how comfortable they are and how nice the stage is when listening to classical music and jazz. Unfortunately I have a cold at the moment so I cannot really judge the sound beyond that but I definitely like what I hear and they sound better than my L1s and SRH840s.

 

However, I don't have a proper source, currently I just connect them directly to my phone.

 

Can you suggest a good DAC & amplifier around 500 €?

 

(I would prefer my 64GB iPhone as the source for the DAC so that I am independent from my computer.)

 

Cheers

 

Hi!

 

I just bought FiiO E17 DAC AMP for my new AKG K550's and I have to say that this little piece of equipment just rocks. After WASAPI plugins, the sound from foobar is simply amazing. The E17 is usb-powered so no external power supply is needed. It also has a built in battery so you can easily hook it up to your favorite portable player and enjoy music on the go. Finally, you have 10 step eq for both treble and bass so you can tune the sound for your liking. For me this DAC/AMP is everything I need and just plain awesome especially considering the low price (Zeus Audio from amazon.de marketplace: 112 euros + 20 euros for shipping). With 500 euros, however, you probably get noticeably better sound quality but E17 is great budget product that ticks a lots of boxes. Go read about it if it suits your needs. Lots of rave reviews out there :)

 

Hope this helps

 

Cheers

post #295 of 4958
Not sure he needs a DAC; I thought the line out only skipped the internal amp on an iDevice. In that case, 500€ gets him up into RSA portable amp range, arguably a technically superior product line. With that budget I might be tempted toget a UHA-6s MkII or Dragonfly and put the rest toward CIEMs.
post #296 of 4958
Thread Starter 

Not sure he needs an amp (and a DAC probably a lot less so). I don't imagine the X1's are all that hard to drive. It's possible there is some impedance mismatch going on, but if there were I can't say how big of a difference it would make.


Edited by manveru - 10/11/12 at 12:21pm
post #297 of 4958
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Originally Posted by wj888 View Post

 

 Very heavy Bass... More than HE-400.  If I had to choose.. HE-400 is the BEST! This X1 I think it's more for bass heads.. it's really flabby bass instead of the tight controlled bass I hear from HE-400. 

 

Yet another headphone I now won't bother to audition...

post #298 of 4958
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Originally Posted by Beagle View Post

 

Yet another headphone I now won't bother to audition...

However, you need to consider this if you are interested in re-creating the ambience sound of a home theater system or that of a cinema. Mainly the deep flabby bass that subwoofer pumps out in volume. The noise from the environment that seeps in partially like in a cinema. You are in the center of the cinema and noise is not totally isolated, it blends in with the cinema soundtrack. Yesterday night I watch Prometheus and my god.. It sounds like I was sitting right in the middle of a cinema. No dolby headphone technology needded but I think it would be even more impressive if that was turned on.  Today, I asked my wife to try it and she had similar remarks. 

 

Quote:
Updated 12/10/2012 :- I've finally understood this is a separate category from the rest of the headphones. X1 is indeed very very accurate in representing what you hear in a hi-fi system or cinema. The bass i hear when watching movie is actually very deep and SUB-WOOFER like sound you get from the cinema. The depth and layering of details added to the immersive soundscape.  So if buyng for music, this might not be it. But for Watching Movies.. Oh boy! This is a MUST HAVE!


But I have to agree if you are listening to music, you will find HE-400 to be heavenly ! Details and seperation are there and still musical but not to the extent of the AKG Q701 which dissects everything.  The X1 overpowering bass makes it hard to hear the level of details and seperation like the rest. Someone mentioned turning down the bass will make this $300 phone becomes a worthy $600ish phones. I haven't tried that 'coz I liked it RAW.. I don't add +/- treble/bass eq to my phones. hehe

 

 

P/S : After trying out so many phones, I have developed a definite preference for OPEN-Backed airy phones. I am not a basshead though, I find AKG Q701 bass good enough for me when people were complaining of its lack of bass. 


Edited by wj888 - 10/11/12 at 7:49pm
post #299 of 4958
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Originally Posted by wj888 View Post

 

Updated 12/10/2012 :- I've finally understood this is a separate category from the rest of the headphones. X1 is indeed very very accurate in representing what you hear in a hi-fi system or cinema. The bass i hear when watching movie is actually very deep and SUB-WOOFER like sound you get from the cinema. The depth and layering of details added to the immersive soundscape.  So if buyng for music, this might not be it. But for Watching Movies.. Oh boy! This is a MUST HAVE!

 

How wide is the soundstage? For me movie/gaming headphones should be relaxed and laid back rather than forward so that they do not cause fatigue. From your impressions I get the feeling they are forward sounding? 

 

Also doesn't bode well that you think the CAL's (which I thought were rubbish) are better than a headphone that costs over 4 times as much.

post #300 of 4958
You take that back, foul knave! The CAL was better than the 770/80.
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