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post #2806 of 5820

 

 

Anyway. Right now I'm considering going with the AKG 702 Annies for $400. Extra $120 over what the X1s are going for on Amazon.

 

My main reasons being:

1. Replaceable ear pads.

2. Knowing that I'll be able to get replacement parts years from now.

3. Annies probably hold their value better in the long run.

 

For #2, my reasoning is mainly this: I can still get exact replacement parts for my used K240 Monitors and those are pretty old. AKG doesnt seem to be ending the K7xx series anytime soon, so even if I cant get an exact part, I can get pretty damn close.

 

For #3, well the Annies are limited to 3000 units right. Right now people seem to reselling them for cheap ($350ish) mainly because 1. they originally got a good deal on them and/or 2. they bought them when they already have a K7xx series and decided the upgrade wasnt worth the price. But I really think in the long run, they will hold value better if I want to resell. So its just a safer buy (in my opinion).

 

From what I understand, people say these X1s are the perfect balance between the K701 and HD650s? As in they're a K701 with more bass.

Well thats what the K702 Annies are also being described as...

Would anyone here happen to have both X1 and K702 (or K712) and could help me decide?

 

Wish I had more cash, I would just go buy both and decide for myself (and report back of course).

post #2807 of 5820
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post
 

 

How did you get the "hoes" to tuck up in the inside?

 

Tutorial?

 

:popcorn:

 

Yes, tutorial please. I would also like to see the hos in their virginal original form if you don't mind...

post #2808 of 5820
Wow. Just got home and see the explosion. Ill explain it in PM to those that I see misunderstood.

A little more careful reading and it would be unnecessary but obviously a few people conveyed part messages and lead others here with incorrect assumptions.

Thanks to those that did read. See you around in other threads.
post #2809 of 5820
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Originally Posted by PanpandaChan View Post

 

Would anyone here happen to have both X1 and K702 (or K712) and could help me decide?

 

I have K712 and X1.  

 

Basically most of what I said here still stands:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/670318/philips-fidelio-x1-review-comparison

post #2810 of 5820
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post
 

 

I have K712 and X1.  

 

Basically most of what I said here still stands:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/670318/philips-fidelio-x1-review-comparison

 

Thanks! I did read that review before, but at the time I wasnt considering the Annies so I overlooked those comparisons.

Just gave it another read. So it seems you like both the X1 and the Annies, with the X1 being more "fun" and having a slightly larger sound stage than the Annies. Bass performance on both is good from I understand. The Annies being better in the mids is attractive to me since I do play a lot of FPS games and footsteps/reloading all lie in that area.

 

Quick question about the bass between the two. I like to listen to EDM (dance music) and hip hop from time to time, along with rock/metal and indie.

Would I be disappointed in the Annies' bass for EDM/hip hop compared to the X1?

 

For reference, I find my TMA-1s to be slightly too dark.

My Sony XB-500s to be insanely boomy.

And my K240 Monitors to be too neutral.

 

Thanks for the help!

 

EDIT: Awesome pictures by the way. Photography is my other expensive hobby... got too many of those haha.

post #2811 of 5820
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post
 

 

How did you get the "hoes" to tuck up in the inside?

 

Tutorial?

 

:popcorn:

haha yeah initially i stated that since these pads were glued on there was no crevices to tuck dem hoes in, but there is a very thin gap that can indeed make it work. Another dood that tried the sock mod posted he was able to cover even the inside of the pads so i attempted to see if it indeed works or not.

 

From this:

 

To this:

 

 

... SWAG HOED UP!!! :cool:

 

 

 

You have to have patience and use a great deal of restraint when you are tucking the end parts of dem hoes in. So how was i able to do it and what secret technique did i use??? You would have to use this magical tool that only i possess, if you want them i can sell one to ya' for $100s a pop. ;)

 

Or i can just post a pic of them and have you clever peps figure it out.

... here's my finger to all this flipping cable talk!!! :ksc75smile:

 

... the rounded edge of this magical lil' tool is perfect to tuck the cut ends of dem hoes into the tiny crevice of the pads. You don't wanna use something that is sharp or really pointy cuz it will most likely poke holes into the fabric cover of the drivers.

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
That's the rounded end of the nail clipper if you people really have no clue what it is. LoL

It's the top piece that flips out and holds the filer in place NOT THE ACTUAL FILER ITSELF CUZ THAT IS TOO POINTY!!!
post #2812 of 5820
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post
 

 

I have K712 and X1.  

 

Basically most of what I said here still stands:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/670318/philips-fidelio-x1-review-comparison

 

 

Sheesh, couldn't your provide a bit more of a detailed comparison? ;)

 

Just kidding.. awesome job and thanks for re-linking it! And if you took those photos, nice job with that as well :)

post #2813 of 5820
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post
 

You have to have patience and use a great deal of restraint when you are tucking the end parts of dem hoes in. So how was i able to do it and what secret technique did i use??? You would have to use this magical tool that only i possess, if you want them i can sell one to ya' for $100s a pop. ;)

 

Great stuff Sf! They look really good on now that you've got them tucked in. Now I've just got to go find me some hoes...

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Chico's photos are sweeeeeet :)

post #2815 of 5820
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Originally Posted by PanpandaChan View Post
 

 

Thanks! I did read that review before, but at the time I wasnt considering the Annies so I overlooked those comparisons.

Just gave it another read. So it seems you like both the X1 and the Annies, with the X1 being more "fun" and having a slightly larger sound stage than the Annies.

 

The X1 doesn't have a larger soundstage, it just sounds a little more spacious sometimes because the instruments are smaller inside with more roominess.

 

 

 

Quick question about the bass between the two. I like to listen to EDM (dance music) and hip hop from time to time, along with rock/metal and indie. 

Would I be disappointed in the Annies' bass for EDM/hip hop compared to the X1?

 

Probably not, but you can always bass boost them.  The X1s are sort of bass boosted by default.

 

 

 

EDIT: Awesome pictures by the way. Photography is my other expensive hobby... got too many of those haha.

 

Thanks! 

And it certainly is expensive :\  When a decent dSLR lens costs as much as a mid-fi headphone it adds up pretty quick!  (That's not even touching the pro lenses/bodies, which can both cost more than most flagship headphones.)


Edited by chicolom - 9/30/13 at 5:06pm
post #2816 of 5820
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post
 

 

 

Sheesh, couldn't your provide a bit more of a detailed comparison? ;)

 

Just kidding.. awesome job and thanks for re-linking it! And if you took those photos, nice job with that as well :)

 

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Originally Posted by ethan7000 View Post
 

Chico's photos are sweeeeeet :)

 

= Pissssssssssssh, i would have to politely disagree. My photos are muccccccccccch better. :p

 

 

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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post
 

 

Great stuff Sf! They look really good on now that you've got them tucked in. Now I've just got to go find me some hoes...

^ Welp i got dem hoes from the $1 store and they have many variants, some are really thin some are thicker. Dem thicker hoes are much much better if you catch my drift. ;) It's easy as cake, you just cut the toe end off accordingly so there is enough to cover the entire pad. You wrap the ankle section (since that is the most elastic and tight :evil:) of dem hoes onto the very outer parts of pads/ housing and the cut end are tucked into the crevices inside the pads.  This makes the sock mod look pretty clean........... i'll leave ya'll to decide if there are any sonic changes. :)

post #2817 of 5820
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post

 

The X1 doesn't have a larger soundstage, it just sounds a little more spacious sometimes because the instruments are smaller inside with more roominess.

 

Probably not, but you can always bass boost them.  The X1s are sort of bass boosted by default.

 

Thanks! 

And it certainly is expensive :\  When a decent dSLR lens costs as much as a mid-fi headphone it adds up pretty quick!  (That's not even touching the pro lenses/bodies, which can both cost more than most flagship headphones.)

 

Ah I see.

I'm not great with all the terminology involved with describing audio quality, even after reading glossaries of such terms lol. So thanks for the explanation.

I guess I could just boost them  if the difference is fairly little. My K240 Monitors on the other hand... are pretty hopeless in terms of boost helping >.<

 

And indeed... at first I thought the K702 Annies were way out of my price range, until i realized its still cheaper than my lens...

post #2818 of 5820
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Originally Posted by PanpandaChan View Post

 

I guess I could just boost them  if the difference is fairly little. My K240 Monitors on the other hand... are pretty hopeless in terms of boost helping >.<

 

And indeed... at first I thought the K702 Annies were way out of my price range, until i realized its still cheaper than my lens...

 

I've tried the newer K240 studio and the bass seemed OK on it.  I'm not sure if the monitor has less.

 

Have you considered also the K712s over the Anniversaries?  They're slightly warmer with slightly more body.

post #2819 of 5820
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post
 

 

I've tried the newer K240 studio and the bass seemed OK on it.  I'm not sure if the monitor has less.

 

Have you considered also the K712s over the Anniversaries?  They're slightly warmer with slightly more body.

 

Yea the K712s were actually the reason I found out about the Annies. I originally dismissed the Annies thinking they had the same sound as the standard K701/K702s.

 

However, the Annies would only cost me $15 more, I like the Black/Blue a lot more than the Black/Orange scheme, and again I feel like the Annies would retain value better.

Also, I read some comparisons in the K712 and Annie threads, it seems like there isnt much of a difference between the two.

 

Actually, I think the comparisons I read were yours lol. You own one pair and borrowed the other pair from someone to compare with right?

 

EDIT: And yea I read about the K240 studio having some bass. Pretty sure my Monitors have absolutely none lol.


Edited by PanpandaChan - 9/30/13 at 5:43pm
post #2820 of 5820
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Originally Posted by PanpandaChan View Post
 

 

Also, I read some comparisons in the K712 and Annie threads, it seems like there isnt much of a difference between the two.

 

Actually, I think the comparisons I read were yours lol. You own one pair and borrowed the other pair from someone to compare with right?

 

Yeah, that was me.

 

I slightly prefer the K712s sound overal, and I like the deeper pads, slightly less intimate soundstage, and slightly less upper mids dryness. 

 

I prefer the looks on the Anniversary, but that's not a big factor for me.

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