[New] Philips Fidelio X1 - Page 88

What changes? Could you be really specific? Use examples for example :)

What's a cheap silver wire for EU? Or would mogami do? If so, should I get the thickest wire?

The bass become much more defined and precise so that even the mids benefit of that, treble are always crystal clear but never fatiguing.
It 's the second time you do this question to me, do you think it is too much spending 30/40 euro for a decent cable for a headset like the X1?
You can self-produce it with two connectors neutrik.
A cable V-moda already improves the performance, but we are talking about a mid-level cable anyway.
The reality is that the standard is wrong, sounds bad and it's a shame.
I hope now is clear.
 

Yes thank you.

It's true I find it hard to justify spending that amount on a mere cable. Meh i'll diy one sometimes just to be sure and to hear the difference myself. I really hope it makes a difference. ;)

Someone should measure monoprice's 3.5mm cable:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10218&cs_id=1021816&p_id=9765&seq=1&format=2#description

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Originally Posted by HolyCheese 

Yes thank you.

 

It's true I find it hard to justify spending that amount on a mere cable. Meh i'll diy one sometimes just to be sure and to hear the difference myself. I really hope it makes a difference. ;)

Well, it provides a nice lift. It does not transform them! The bass tightens up and that means there is less warmth into the midrange. This of course only relevant if your amp has a low headphone out resistance. I reused a Sony Cable I have which had half the resistance of the original. I think the V-Moda cable is enough for testing the difference.

Its a weird choice for Philips to include a cable with a quite high DC resistance, but the AC impedance would be much more interesting...

Nevertheless a €50,- cable will almost always sound better since it has to -- it costs €50,- after all ;-)

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Originally Posted by plakat 

Its a weird choice for Philips to include a cable with a quite high DC resistance, but the AC impedance would be much more interesting...

Nevertheless a €50,- cable will almost always sound better since it has to -- it costs €50,- after all ;-)

Indeed, logically the more you spend the better it gets right? :) I would also be interested in the reason Philips decide upon that cable. Perhaps they felt the looser bass will appeal more to people.However I think people are making to big thing about it.

It does not drastically change the soundsignature.

Got my X1 yesterday. Not only was the cable terrible, I think it's defective... If I rotated the jack inside the headphones it would disable the right side completely Worse, even slight movements would move the cable and cause the right to become distorted. And if that wasn't bad, the bass was distorted for certain songs. I was extremely pissed and expecting I'd have to return it, but I switched to this cable and the difference was night and day. Best of all, rotating the jack while inside the headphone caused no problems.

I definitely prefer the X1 to the 598s. It's heavy on the low side, but I feel it's really clean and warm towards the low end and that is where the 598s are lacking. I'm happy with the headphones, but I cannot believe they shipped it with this cable. If I'm paying this much for a headset, I'd expect a decent cable.

Yeah, I agree with your opinion about X1 vs 598. X1 is definitely warmer than 598, and it has more details and bass as well. But I am still trying to get used to the sound signature of the X1 as I have got used to the more forward-mid HD598. And I still think HD598 sounds more clearer, if you know what I mean.  

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Originally Posted by soaphz 

Yeah, I agree with your opinion about X1 vs 598. X1 is definitely warmer than 598, and it has more details and bass as well. But I am still trying to get used to the sound signature of the X1 as I have got used to the more forward-mid HD598. And I still think HD598 sounds more clearer, if you know what I mean.  

I agree. Clearer and cleaner. The X1 is definitely made for some laid back listening, but honestly that's what I was looking for. While they are looser than the 598s in that respect, I feel like they have a lot of control for some reason. When I listen to the M50s, I feel those cans are extremely boomy and loose compared to the X1.

Personally, I don't make music, I just want to enjoy it. And sadly some of the most accurate headphones make some of music I listen to sound really bland or constrained. But then we get into the debate of should we listen to sound as it's intended or is modifying it to our own preferences acceptable... Different people with different purposes will have varying opinions.

Also something I wanted to add to my overview. The X1s are some sexy headphones. They look like a million bucks for sure. They are heavier than the 598s and the difference is easily apparent to me. But the heft makes them feel expensive as well. Foremost, the things that suck about the X1 is the stupid cable (for me especially) and the fact that the ear pads don't seem like they are replaceable. And These are by far the leakiest headphones I used. It feels like there is someone listening to music on their phone at 1/2 the volume in the room. Last complaint is that it seems I barely fit the limit of head size for these since the elastic band hugs the top band so I know that anyone whose head is larger than mine is probably not going to be that comfortable. But I love the way these things look. The aluminum/black combination is extremely slick and I can't stop admiring them, especially over the 598s. Everything screams quality over the Sens, but the X1 is double the price so I guess it better haha.