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post #4321 of 5801
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Originally Posted by olilam View Post
 

 

Thank you for the information :)

 

I think I may have miscommunicated my question.  I currently have the M8 and am using it with my iphone.  

Besides the music file quality (96 or 192) how does connecting a DAP (AK100/AK120) which has in internal DAC improve the sound quality?


When a DAP or computer is connected to the M8, the internal DACs of these devices are bypassed and the M8's DAC takes over.  Everything the M8 connects to is purely digital.  That means, the fancy dual dac of the AK120 doesn't get used at all, when connected to the HiFi-M8.

 

That being said, these players are more compatable with hi-res files then your iPhone (yes I understand with a little voodoo you can get some hi-res stuff to work).  And you already stated that you hear a difference.  So the next choice is, which DAP do you want to use as a digital transport?

post #4322 of 5801
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When a DAP or computer is connected to the M8, the internal DACs of these devices are bypassed and the M8's DAC takes over.  Everything the M8 connects to is purely digital.  That means, the fancy dual dac of the AK120 doesn't get used at all, when connected to the HiFi-M8.

 

That being said, these players are more compatable with hi-res files then your iPhone (yes I understand with a little voodoo you can get some hi-res stuff to work).  And you already stated that you hear a difference.  So the next choice is, which DAP do you want to use as a digital transport?

 

Thank you, this clears a lot of the confusion I had, since I was trying to justify a US$1200 DAP when I already have the M8.  I am trying to put my dollars to best use.  Will this mean, scientifically (not psychologically...dont want to go into that debate) that the sound quality sound will be the same from ZX1 in comparison to the AK120 or even the AK240 when connected to the M8?

post #4323 of 5801

That's correct.

post #4324 of 5801

Yes.  But keep in mind only the ZX1 can connect to an iDevice M8, because it uses the larger USB connector that's on all the HiFi-M8s.

 

I'm personally hoping for a ZX1 release in the US...

post #4325 of 5801

Not one mention of the HiFi M8 appearing on TAS's editors choice in the most recent issue?  (Maybe I'm hallucinating but I could have sworn it was there.)  I guess we have moved beyond the "boutique high end" and are now migrating toward "the leading edge".

post #4326 of 5801
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Originally Posted by ButtUglyJeff View Post
 

Yes.  But keep in mind only the ZX1 can connect to an iDevice M8, because it uses the larger USB connector that's on all the HiFi-M8s.

 

I'm personally hoping for a ZX1 release in the US...

 

 

Thank you!  Everything regarding this has been cleared up :)

Great community! 

post #4327 of 5801

HiFi-M8 vs V-MODA VAMP:

 

My son got the V-MODA VAMP for Christmas, because he needed something half the thickness of the HiFi-M8 and will only be using it with portable 3.5mm headphones and IEM, and he wanted the 3D sound for gaming and movies.

 

I still much prefer my HiFi-M8 for serious listening.

 

Yes, the V-MODA is better than the built-in sound from the iPhone 5s headphone jack, but it's behind the HiFi-M8 in terms of detail and clarity, soundstage size, and power with orthodynamics like the LCD-2 and HE-500. The V-MODA sounds a little warmer with HD800 (using a silver dragon 3.5mm cable adapter), but it holds them back in terms of max performance although still offering an upgrade over the iPhone amp.

 

The HiFi-M8 sounds like a nice desktop amp such as the DACmini, with only about 3-4 dB less head-room at max volume. The V-MODA sounds like a nice portable amp, and is still very useful if you need something half the thickness of the M-8. For me, if I need something smaller I'll use my Pico DAC/Pico Slim with CCK.

 

I haven't used my other DAC/amps in the bedroom much since RMAF when I got my HiFi-M8, where I mostly use the Macbook or iPad Air feeding USB into the M-8 for listening. Sometimes I feed the M-8's output into my RSA F-35 Lightning amp, like when I want to warm up the sound of the HD800 and make them hit a little harder. SE input on the RSA amp is about as good as balanced from the same DAC, so I just use a 3.5mm interconnect. This is similar to what I used to do previously when using their predecessors - combining the DACmini + SR-71b.

 

At RMAF the M-8 was even better with the LCD-X than my LCD-2, but I don't have room in the budget for the LCD-X yet, so I use my balanced LCD-2 and HE-500 with it the most in my bedroom rig. But I would highly recommend the LCD-X/M-8 combo for someone wanting a great desktop rig, even though it's using a portable digital dock amp. I can't tell much of a difference between the HiFi-M8 and my Stello DA-100 Signature DAC + Maxed Woo WA6 and upgraded tubes (a $2,200 combo). Still impressed after 3 months.

post #4328 of 5801
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post
 

HiFi-M8 vs V-MODA VAMP:

 

My son got the V-MODA VAMP for Christmas, because he needed something half the thickness of the HiFi-M8 and will only be using it with portable 3.5mm headphones and IEM, and he wanted the 3D sound for gaming and movies.

 

I still much prefer my HiFi-M8 for serious listening.

 

Yes, the V-MODA is better than the built-in sound from the iPhone 5s headphone jack, but it's behind the HiFi-M8 in terms of detail and clarity, soundstage size, and power with orthodynamics like the LCD-2 and HE-500. The V-MODA sounds a little warmer with HD800 (using a silver dragon 3.5mm cable adapter), but it holds them back in terms of max performance although still offering an upgrade over the iPhone amp.

 

The HiFi-M8 sounds like a nice desktop amp such as the DACmini, with only about 3-4 dB less head-room at max volume. The V-MODA sounds like a nice portable amp, and is still very useful if you need something half the thickness of the M-8. For me, if I need something smaller I'll use my Pico DAC/Pico Slim with CCK.

 

I haven't used my other DAC/amps in the bedroom much since RMAF when I got my HiFi-M8, where I mostly use the Macbook or iPad Air feeding USB into the M-8 for listening. Sometimes I feed the M-8's output into my RSA F-35 Lightning amp, like when I want to warm up the sound of the HD800 and make them hit a little harder. SE input on the RSA amp is about as good as balanced from the same DAC, so I just use a 3.5mm interconnect. This is similar to what I used to do previously when using their predecessors - combining the DACmini + SR-71b.

 

At RMAF the M-8 was even better with the LCD-X than my LCD-2, but I don't have room in the budget for the LCD-X yet, so I use my balanced LCD-2 and HE-500 with it the most in my bedroom rig. But I would highly recommend the LCD-X/M-8 combo for someone wanting a great desktop rig, even though it's using a portable digital dock amp. I can't tell much of a difference between the HiFi-M8 and my Stello DA-100 Signature DAC + Maxed Woo WA6 and upgraded tubes (a $2,200 combo). Still impressed after 3 months.

great write up, thanks

 

mine's 2 months old now and I love it

post #4329 of 5801
Great write up. Still loving mine too.
post #4330 of 5801

I have had the M8 for almost four months and now I primarily use it as a DAC/preamp source amplified by a NAD D3020 into a pair Dali Zenso 1 for a small sized budget setup and at the same time, or split seconds after to be exact, I can also in the same setup use my only real and relative cheap cans, the HD600 from the balanced output of the M8. Great performance there as well.

 

The NAD D3020 has its own DAC and headphone amplifier but I don't experience that they are in the same league as the M8. The NAD D3020's speaker amplifier is at a much different level and scale up much higher than its DAC/headphone amp and a budget killer speaker amplifier on its own term..

 

A few hours a week I use the M8 with an iPod Touch and a pair of Ety 4ER-S and I personally do feel that the M8 really enhances the Ety's performance much more than HO out from the iPod or any other portable amp that I have tried with it.  I have also very recently tried some really great IEM's from Noble Audio, the 4 and 6, and experienced a near similar enhancement when combining them with the M8 vs. HO.

 

So, to me at least and after I have had it in my possession for almost half the time I waited for it.. Then, the M8 offers me excellent versatility combined with a unique sound performance, take away the hassle of unplugging a few cables etc. It is going nowhere...

post #4331 of 5801
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Originally Posted by superman1688 View Post
 

Hey all, does anyone know how to use the M8 with an LG G2 phone? I've tried connecting the LG G2 to the M8 with a USB OTG cable, but when I do the music refuse to play (when I click play, the playback freezes).  I've also tried plugging the device with the phone off initially, and also tried restarting the phone with the M8 plugged in - same results...

 

Using USB Audio Player Pro (demo version) works, but I saw earlier in the thread someone said it was plug and play on the LG G2 and Samsung Note 3? I also want to be able to use the M8 on other things beside music, like video playback.


Still having no luck using my CEntrance M8 with my LG G2 other than using USB Audio Player Pro (demo). Anyone else has any experience with this?

post #4332 of 5801
I use it with an S3 sometimes and it's buggy at best. 50%"of the time it won't handshake and then 10% of the time it just randomly turns the phone off. Plus the lack of a short USB one to USB B Cable is also a pain.
Overall I enjoy it much more with the ipod touch, works great and no hassle.
post #4333 of 5801
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Originally Posted by sluker View Post

I use it with an S3 sometimes and it's buggy at best. 50%"of the time it won't handshake and then 10% of the time it just randomly turns the phone off. Plus the lack of a short USB one to USB B Cable is also a pain.

Overall I enjoy it much more with the ipod touch, works great and no hassle.

 



I use HiFi M8 with a Galaxy S4 with both USB Recorder Pro and Player. My Galaxy usually requires a restart with the HiFi M8 connected and in the ON position. If I do that I have no issue with recognition and it works/sounds really great. I got a Forza Audio Works cable (I recommend the Forza).

Eventually someone will come up with the "Rosetta Stone" program that will allow the Android device to connect to the HiFi M8 and play from any source, digital out, even streaming sources. It will bypass all of the crummy DAC circuits and underpowered amp in the phone and just feed bits to the Centrance and it will turn those 1's and 0's to the real McCoy. And there will be no recognition issues, just "plug and play". OK, I'm a dreamer but somebody out there can fix this thing.
post #4334 of 5801
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Originally Posted by olilam View Post
 

 

Thank you, this clears a lot of the confusion I had, since I was trying to justify a US$1200 DAP when I already have the M8.  I am trying to put my dollars to best use.  Will this mean, scientifically (not psychologically...dont want to go into that debate) that the sound quality sound will be the same from ZX1 in comparison to the AK120 or even the AK240 when connected to the M8?

Even though we're using the Hifi-M8's dac, not all devices will sound exactly the same through the M8.

 

For example, an ipod classic won't sound the same as an ipod touch 5g playing through the hifi-m8. I personally have not tried the above set-up, but I remember someone stating this earlier in this thread.

 

Also, for example, different music players (foobar2000, media monkey, jriver, etc.) will sound slightly different when using your Hifi-M8 with a pc. 

 

Like I said, slight differences, no biggie.:o

post #4335 of 5801
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Originally Posted by sluker View Post

I use it with an S3 sometimes and it's buggy at best. 50%"of the time it won't handshake and then 10% of the time it just randomly turns the phone off.
Plus the lack of a short USB one to USB B Cable is also a pain.

Overall I enjoy it much more with the ipod touch, works great and no hassle.

I used my M8 with the S4 and as long as I turned on the m8 before connecting to the phone, and then opening up either UARP or UAPP apps, I had no such problems.

 

I made my own thanks to this thread:  http://www.head-fi.org/t/666267/diy-otg-micro-usb-b-cable-to-usb-b-tutorial

 

I probably wouldn't mess with Android either if I had the iDevice version M8:biggrin:


Edited by wormsdriver - 2/15/14 at 12:39am
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