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post #3751 of 5157
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Originally Posted by ExpatinJapan View Post
 

Yeah, it seems that the ipod touch 4G will stay on OS 6x unfortunately.

 

I should have sprung extra for the touch 5G (I bought it cause I didnt want to purchase another custom cable-lightning).


I'm sure you could find a buyer for the 4G these days. There are plenty of people with the same mentality - they don't want the lightning port. I'd imagine you could sell it for almost what you paid for it.

post #3752 of 5157
Ah ok. My mistake, only 5th gen is able to work with cck then?
If so, would I be able to keep it in that ios version? Or will the device update itself when I connect to itunes and or on wifi?
post #3753 of 5157

So is the HifiM8 fully balanced from the DAC output signal onwards, or is it partially balanced (convert single ended DAC line level signal to balanced signal via a (differential?) balanced amplifier)?

post #3754 of 5157
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Originally Posted by aamefford View Post

My iPod touch 4G 64 GB will not upgrade beyond 6.x. No cck as far as I am aware. Is this verified Bo others?

 

Only 5th gen iPod Touches can run IOS7.  And IO7 is the only way for iPods and iPhones to use the CCK for audio.  iPads could do the trick before the update...

post #3755 of 5157

From the ios7, iPhone and Apple CCK thread:

 

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+1, just tested my m8 with 5S and it works perfectly through cck. Seems a lot of people will be buying the lx now unless the bulk of the cck cable is a worry.

Someone will build an all in one by combining the cck & a short usb cable to take that out of the equation though. Probably should have got the LX!

P.s. hifim8 is killer

 

 

Maybe I'll look into a 5ht gen ipod touch then...


Edited by wormsdriver - 10/16/13 at 3:22am
post #3756 of 5157
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Originally Posted by placebo-fi View Post
 

So is the HifiM8 fully balanced from the DAC output signal onwards, or is it partially balanced (convert single ended DAC line level signal to balanced signal via a (differential?) balanced amplifier)?

Yes, good question.  And thank you Mr.Goodman for the ongoing clarifications. I am eager to understand this whole balanced / single-ended mystery. . .  

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Edited by seeteeyou - 11/4/14 at 11:02pm
post #3758 of 5157
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Originally Posted by seeteeyou View Post

One of my posts should have mentioned what could be done to make a simple CCK cable without the bulk in between

http://www.head-fi.org/t/682222/ios7-iphone-and-apple-cck/105#post_9850779

And there are plenty of quality parts available for making DIY cables

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=18252858498

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=18356217827

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19528329504

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19733294860

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19996857560

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=20193805682

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=20875115523

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=24799736353

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=27488216785

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=35272090998

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19051326054

How do we draw something simple to explain what we're trying to accomplish and then ask someone to do that? If such CCK-capable cables were successful for both 30-pin and lightning connectors while being right-angled on each side, it should be feasible to make something similar for the upcoming Sony Walkman models as well.

It would be awesome if a custom cable from Lightning-to-mini USB plug or Lightning-to-micro USB plug could be made. Right now, the best one can do with off the shelf parts looks something like this:



The DAC shown is the batteryless HRT microStreamer.

Edit: For the HiFi M8, a Lightning-to-USB (full size) plug would be needed.
Edited by jazzman7 - 10/16/13 at 8:46am
post #3759 of 5157
Any working cck should be able to be torn down with the appropriate usb cable attached instead of the female jack on the adapter. The main issue, as always, is making sure whatever digital circuitry necessary for the iDevice to recognize the cck is there.

I'd take a crack at it, but I don't own an iDevice and don't have $30 to burn if it doesn't work.
post #3760 of 5157
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Originally Posted by seeteeyou View Post

One of my posts should have mentioned what could be done to make a simple CCK cable without the bulk in between

http://www.head-fi.org/t/682222/ios7-iphone-and-apple-cck/105#post_9850779

And there are plenty of quality parts available for making DIY cables

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=18252858498

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=18356217827

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19528329504

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19733294860

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19996857560

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=20193805682

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=20875115523

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=24799736353

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=27488216785

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=35272090998

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19051326054

How do we draw something simple to explain what we're trying to accomplish and then ask someone to do that? If such CCK-capable cables were successful for both 30-pin and lightning connectors while being right-angled on each side, it should be feasible to make something similar for the upcoming Sony Walkman models as well.

I've been talking with Peter at Double Helix cables and he's going to take a crack at it. I'll keep everybody posted.
post #3761 of 5157

The fact that the input connector is toslink and not coaxial really makes me sad :( 

post #3762 of 5157

Just got my M8 (IOS version XLR) today and I can play from my computer through the USB fine and with the CCK out of my iPad mini/iPhone 5 with no issues.  I can't play anything out of my iPod Touch 4G or iPod 5.5.  I have updated all of my iOS devices but not sure why 30 pin devices won't work?

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

post #3763 of 5157
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Originally Posted by jjshin23 View Post
 

Just got my M8 (IOS version XLR) today and I can play from my computer through the USB fine and with the CCK out of my iPad mini/iPhone 5 with no issues.  I can't play anything out of my iPod Touch 4G or iPod 5.5.  I have updated all of my iOS devices but not sure why 30 pin devices won't work?

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

No current dock or device will allow digital out from older Apple devices. You need a newer iPod like the current 7th gen iPod Classic or any current iOS device. 

post #3764 of 5157

that would explain it.  Thanks for the help.  I guess an upgrade is in order now.

Do you know if the iPod Touch 4G will work then?


Edited by jjshin23 - 10/16/13 at 7:50pm
post #3765 of 5157
Quote:
Originally Posted by jjshin23 View Post
 

Just got my M8 (IOS version XLR) today and I can play from my computer through the USB fine and with the CCK out of my iPad mini/iPhone 5 with no issues.  I can't play anything out of my iPod Touch 4G or iPod 5.5.  I have updated all of my iOS devices but not sure why 30 pin devices won't work?

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

The ipod touch 4G works, thats what I am using.

Try another cable (Your apple usb 30pin cable), some of the Centrance cables were faulty.

 

Also make sure your hifi-m8 on/off switch is to the RIGHT for ipods ;)

 

*ipod 5/5.5 wont work.

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