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So with not so sensitive ciems it should be okay right? No hiss, no need to mod?

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Originally Posted by DrSheep View Post
 

?? I think you read my question wrong.  I was just wondering will Michael upgrade the battery in the M8 to match the Theorem.

That was my idea of sarcasm, sorry if I was unclear ;)

Anyway, Michael and CEntrance put a lot of work optimizing the M8 to get maximum battery life and still keep maximum output power. Why should M8 try to match battery life of a unit that isn't even half as powerful?

Maybe if Cypher Labs invented a new, more capable kind of battery...


Edited by hoichi - 9/4/13 at 7:40am
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That was sarcasm, sorry if I was unclear ;)

Anyway, Michael and CEntrance put a lot of work optimizing the M8 to get maximum battery life and still keep maximum output power. Why should M8 try to match battery life of a unit that isn't even half as powerful?

True.  To be honest I have no idea what Cypher Labs was thinking when they developed the Theorem 720, as battery life alone cannot justified its price given such low tech setup.  If I want 24/192 from a computer, there is the VC SDT, which does DSD too for almost half the price; if I want SQ and power, we got the M8 right here (and 24/96 too in the furture for iPods); if I want battery life, then I can just keep on using my AK120 after my (pending) LX's battery dies, or just get a cheap Cowon.  I think in the end, 90% of people who are looking into getting a $700+ DAC/AMP for their iPods will take the M8 over the Theorem 720.  Only time will tell, but I don't think I am far off on this.

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The funny thing is the Solo already has 14 hours of battery life, ditto the ALO National I sometimes pair it with, so the 18 or whatever hours of the Theorem is not a huge attraction for me, ignoring 3 stacks vs. 2 etc. When I need more power, that's what the M8 is for, notisthstanding it doesn't give 14 hours. I mean, you can't have a big engine supercar and still get the mileage of an economy car.
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I think in the end, 90% of people who are looking into getting a $700+ DAC/AMP for their iPods will take the M8 over the Theorem 720.  Only time will tell, but I don't think I am far off on this.
I agree to some extent. I'd have been happier with a DAC/amp version of my Solo (call it the Duo) with even the same 14 hours and either Apple or Android capability a la M8, not both OS in one box because to me I'm paying for one half and not using the other half.
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Originally Posted by DrSheep View Post
 

True.  To be honest I have no idea what Cypher Labs was thinking when they developed the Theorem 720, as battery life alone cannot justified its price given such low tech setup.  If I want 24/192 from a computer, there is the VC SDT, which does DSD too for almost half the price; if I want SQ and power, we got the M8 right here (and 24/96 too in the furture for iPods); if I want battery life, then I can just keep on using my AK120 after my (pending) LX's battery dies, or just get a cheap Cowon.  I think in the end, 90% of people who are looking into getting a $700+ DAC/AMP for their iPods will take the M8 over the Theorem 720.  Only time will tell, but I don't think I am far off on this.

I'm definitely getting the M8 over the Theorem since I'm planning to get orthos and I want to get the best out of them. To me the Theorem just doesn't cut it, even if SQ for the more easy to drive pads is on par with the M8.

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The funny thing is the Solo already has 14 hours of battery life, ditto the ALO National I sometimes pair it with, so the 18 or whatever hours of the Theorem is not a huge attraction for me, ignoring 3 stacks vs. 2 etc. When I need more power, that's what the M8 is for, notisthstanding it doesn't give 14 hours. I mean, you can't have a big engine supercar and still get the mileage of an economy car.

Off topic: well there is always cylinder and valve shut off for englines, or how else can the new Corvette C7 Stingray gets 30 mpg?  But again 30 mpg isn't exactly economy nowadays.

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Off topic: well there is always cylinder and valve shut off for englines, or how else can the new Corvette C7 Stingray gets 30 mpg?  But again 30 mpg isn't exactly economy nowadays.
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Exactly, and I will be lucky to get past 20 mpg with my car (look at my profile.)

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Exactly, and I will be lucky to get past 20 mpg with my car (look at my profile.)

Back to topic but sideways ..,
http://www.head-fi.org/t/680091/faces-behind-the-names#post_9771935
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Back to topic but sideways ..,
http://www.head-fi.org/t/680091/faces-behind-the-names#post_9771935

Great topic for a thread, replied.

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Great topic for a thread, replied.
Thanks. I think this makes our industry or hobby unique
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Originally Posted by DrSheep View Post
 

Michael, since the Cypher Labs Theorem 720 is out, any plans to upgrade the battery?

 

p.s. still wish you success on the 24/96 front for the M8.

HiFi-M8 has enough output level to drive almost ALL hard-to-drive headphones. That's literally a portable power station!

 

We already have a large battery inside, so it's really the size/performance conversation. If you can live with an even larger unit, we can give you a larger battery, but I think most people would be happy with the "sweet spot" that we chose for the HiFi-M8.

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So with not so sensitive ciems it should be okay right? No hiss, no need to mod?

Yes. Most people will be ok with the standard configuration of the HiFi-M8. We set the "sweet spot" right in the middle of most people's needs.

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We already have a large battery inside, so it's really the size/performance conversation. If you can live with an even larger unit, we can give you a larger battery, but I think most people would be happy with the "sweet spot" that we chose for the HiFi-M8.
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Ha Ha. Make an identical M8 housing of just pure battery for those who want to use it to jump start their cars. Just kidding.
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