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Got my iphone4 (as transport only) all filled up with FLAC using flacplayer app, even got serious with making all the album art show up for a change.

 

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Inspecting the PCBs  (click for Hifi M8 updated blog)


Edited by wormsdriver - 5/16/13 at 9:33pm
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So no curves are given. smily_headphones1.gif

Another thing I don't get is the output impedance options. I get 1ohm, I get 10 ohm what I don't get is 2 ohm. That should have been under 0.1 ohms.
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Hmmm... cool.gif

 

Not overly impressed with their Customer Service for the moment... They may be very good at making an (as yet unseen / tested product), their lack of response after an initial reply leaves me perplexed.

 

I understand that they may not be the biggest outfit out there, and (power to them!) the majority of their efforts may be devoted to developing or improving their product(s), but still... Frustrating when you are shouting "SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!", but they won't let you.. frown.gif

 

Cheers,

 

Maxbert


Edited by Maxbert - 5/17/13 at 12:03pm
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When did you email them Maxbert?  I had to wait a few days too.  They are pushing themselves quite hard at the moment...

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Typically CEntrance has been very good with communication, not to make excuses for them, but if I remember correctly from info posted on the blog they were going to the festival in Japan, then on to China for a couple of weeks to oversee some of the production aspects that are going on there. That may have something to do with it.

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Originally Posted by ExpatinJapan View Post

Got my iphone4 (as transport only) all filled up with FLAC using flacplayer app, even got serious with making all the album art show up for a change.

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There are a few FLAC players in the APP store. Which one do use?
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There are a few FLAC players in the APP store. Which one to use?

After trying a few of them I have settled back into Flacplayer app.

 

Accudio is good

equalizerPro -I hear is good.

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There are a few FLAC players in the APP store. Which one do use?
I've been playing around with Capriccio a bit as well. I think it's worth checking out.
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Hmm a good iPhone source.. What do people prefer FLAC or ?WAV? Or apple lossless. I read somewhere that if you convert a FLAC file to .wav it sounds better...any thoughts on this? I mean if you have such a great portable DAC/amp as the hi-fi M8 or LX why wouldn't you want to feed it the best files?

I wish it could have some sort of rubberized sleeve around it for easy grip. Best would be a sleeve that had another sleeve molded onto it, like a kangaroo pouch for your iPhone.
Edited by Golden Ears - 5/17/13 at 11:49pm
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Hmm a good iPhone source.. What do people prefer FLAC or ?WAV? Or apple lossless. I read somewhere that if you convert a FLAC file to .wav it sounds better...any thoughts on this?

FLAC, ALAC(apple lossless) and WAV should all sound exactly the same. If they don't then something in your equipment chain is flawed. Lossless=lossless=lossless.

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Although just to make the argument, some will say uncompressed sounds better because it is less cpu intensive, which means better power and signal whatchamacallits.

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FLAC, ALAC(apple lossless) and WAV should all sound exactly the same. If they don't then something in your equipment chain is flawed. Lossless=lossless=lossless.

Correct me if I'm wrong. People use a different app on an iOS device to listen to FLAC instead of a converted Apple Lossless synced through iTunes, because the built-in player in iOS doesn't allow full resolution/bit rate of the high res music file? I don't know the numbers, but is this right?

 

Then it's up to the user to discern qualitative differences to see if the extra effort is worth it.


Edited by eron - 5/18/13 at 2:47am
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No, the built in music player with allow playback of any resolution provided you have an idevice dac that's capable of that resolution. It's the internal dac that's the limiting factor. Even using flac player, the internal dac is still limiting high res playback and it will get downsampled.

 

This is getting a bit off topic, but I'll just throw in my two cents. The flac player apps can also play high bit rate alac in it's native resolution as well. So you're not limited to flac if you want to play high resolution. The main problem with alac is it's not as universally used by download sites the way flac is, and in order to sync it with itunes, you have to convert it. That can become very time consuming.

 

All of my lossless downloads are flac, I'm sure there are many others who downloads are only flac as well. With apps like flac player etc, you just drag and drop the flac files you want without having to go through the hassle of converting them, and not all music players can play alac either. So flac is much more convenient and simple to deal with.


Edited by moodyrn - 5/18/13 at 7:15am
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No, the built in music player with allow playback of any resolution provided you have an idevice dac that's capable of that resolution. It's the internal dac that's the limiting factor. Even using flac player, the internal dac is still limiting high res playback and it will get downsampled.

 

 

I think its relevant enough.

 

I've always scratched my head over this, when it comes to iDevices.  I was quite sure that Cypher Labs stated that the device downsampled before the data even hits the DAC section.  That is what they advertise the CLAS product as having separate bit rates for using the iPhone/iPad/iPod as opposed to using the CLAS db out of Mac/PC.

 

I would love to be incorrect, but I think that's the appeal of other high end DAPs on the market.  They handle high bit rate formats, usually sacrificing UI in the process...

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