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HiFi-M8 Turns Zoo !!!

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HiFi-M8 Turns Zoo !!!

 

They've put quite a lot efforts in developing the m8. I hope the product will turn out to be a success.

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They've put quite a lot efforts in developing the m8. I hope the product will turn out to be a success.

With such a niche product, I'm curious what exactly constitutes a success, sales-wise.  I'm really digging the power and the balanced out and I'm thinking that I could use it as an DAC/Amp for my main rig that just happens to also be portable.  It would be nice to take a trip home and get people to hear what I hear when I listen to music.

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With such a niche product, I'm curious what exactly constitutes a success, sales-wise.  I'm really digging the power and the balanced out and I'm thinking that I could use it as an DAC/Amp for my main rig that just happens to also be portable.  It would be nice to take a trip home and get people to hear what I hear when I listen to music.

Remember to do this responsibly. people who are not use to this level of fidelity might either:

A. -spontaneously combust

B. -crap their pants

C. -develop a serious head-fi addiction, in which things start off innocently enough, but end up on the brink of insanity due to                 

        insomnia and compulsive buying of gear and Hi-res music files, among other craziness that comes with.

C. -give you a condescending look like you've got it all wrong and then want you to try their precious Beats to teach you a thing or

      two about what real music sounds like. Ha!

D. -head explodes while crapping their pants!

--Other forum members please feel free to add on to this list if needed--

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You massively overrate the improvement it will bring over the DACport. My guess the only difference will be a little more bass control and refinement, hardly anything you notice when you're outside.

The real test of this product IMO is if it's at the level of a desktop dac + amp stack worth 800-1000$. It has to beat the Centrance DACmini in sound quality as a DAC and almost equal it as a headphone amplifier and it's all good. smily_headphones1.gif
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Originally Posted by Zuqi View Post

They've put quite a lot efforts in developing the m8. I hope the product will turn out to be a success.

 

For Head-Fi PR they score 10. We do not yet know if they can walk the walk. Tracking product development is one thing, even for Head-Fi it is surprising how many have come to a conclusion before the final version is even finished. If the product sounds as good as the build-up then sure, they would deserve success. Otherwise my money goes elsewhere

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You massively overrate the improvement it will bring over the DACport. My guess the only difference will be a little more bass control and refinement, hardly anything you notice when you're outside.

 

Isn't this what half of Head-fi is about?  The hyping of the next greatest thing?  It is almost necessary - if something isn't hyped in this hobby, it is most likely going to be overlooked by many.  That said, I am always careful to temper my expectations.  Based on their reputation, I am sure CEntrance will make a solid device that will satisfy the criteria they set for themselves.  Something around the DACport-DACmini amp with the new dac and feature set, will more than justify the price of the device, especially when compared to other mobile solutions in this price range.  This was never meant to replace desktop solutions.

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Isn't this what half of Head-fi is about? 

 

I'd say maybe a third. Another third goes to people parroting recommendations for gear they've never heard (which frequently overlaps with the first third). The last third would be actual useful information on head-fi rolleyes.gif 

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Michael,

If you can make the HiFi M8 work with Android phones that supports USB Audio as well( Samsung Galaxy S3 and many more to come), this will be a truly unique product.

In several countries in Europe ,Android has a higher market share than the iDevices, so giving it a support for both Platforms would be incredible, an probably make it interesting for a much bigger crowd as well.I think it will sell much better if support for borth Platforms is possible in some way.

You mentioned earlier in the Blog that Android devices didnt seem to understand what to do when the DAC presented itself as a 192kHz capable DAC.

What about offering 2 user replaceable firmwires for the Hi-Fi M8:

1) A regular one for the iDevice market, offering full 192kHz sampling rate.

2 ) A Android friendly Version,that only offers 44.1/48 KHz sampling rate when coupled to an Android device via the USB port.

 

Sooner or later I guess there will be developed software making the Android devices able to work with higher sampling rates too, but in the meantime it would be nice to at least have a software that could "dumb down" the HiFi M8 , so it can be used with Android devices while we patiently wait for Google, Samsung  or someone else to develop a better USB Audio driver.

When better USB drivers hopefully are released in the near future, the Android customers could swap back to the regular firmwire for full 192Khz sampling rate, and enjoy the full potential of the HiFi-M8.

In the meantime the Android crowd can at least enjoy a downscaled DAC performance, but with an excellent Amp. It will probably still sound miles ahead of using the Smartphone as a DAC/Amp!

Would making 2 firmwires like this be possible , and doable without very complex/timeconsuming programming ?


Edited by tinf - 4/1/13 at 2:43pm
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In several countries in Europe ,Android has a higher market share than the iDevices, so giving it a support for both Platforms would be incredible, an probably make it interesting for a much bigger crowd as well.I think it will sell much better if support for borth Platforms is possible in some way.

 

2 ) A Android friendly Version,that only offers 44.1/48 KHz sampling rate when coupled to an Android device via the USB port.

 

Yes, many phones are using Android, but most Androids operate differently. The Android market is fragmented, which makes giving support difficult.

From what I understand, CEntrance has to their ability allowed the M8 to talk to Androids. However, similar to how we do not know which older versions of iPods will work with the M8, we don't know which Android systems are compatible with the M8. Yet.

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Originally Posted by tinf View Post

 

What about offering 2 user replaceable firmwires for the Hi-Fi M8:

1) A regular one for the iDevice market, offering full 192kHz sampling rate.

2 ) A Android friendly Version,that only offers 44.1/48 KHz sampling rate when coupled to an Android device via the USB port.

 

Would making 2 firmwires like this be possible , and doable without very complex/timeconsuming programming ?

It's an interesting idea. In fact, we've done just that with DACport when it was first released back in 2009. At that time iPad was still a new product and the first iPads weren't able to work with DACport. The first iPads were limited at 16/48 and didn't "see" DACport because it reported itself as a 24/96 capable device. We released an optional "iPad friendly" firmware, which limited DACport to 44.1/48 and that was enough for it to play nice with the first iPad. The second iPad could already talk to 24/96 devices so the separate "dumb down" firmware was no longer needed, so we stopped offering it to avoid customer confusion.


I can not promise that we will do the same for the M8, because we need to fulfill our original promise and there is a LOT of firmware to deal with.

 

But later, who knows. Thanks for the suggestion.


Edited by mgoodman - 4/1/13 at 7:51pm
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Again, not to belabor the point, but I was wondering if the May deadline is still realistic at this point? Anyone?

We are trying very hard. We are on schedule so far.

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I actually expect it to sound like dacport and hope to get a mobile version. That's it..  The dacport is hard to replace even after 3 years and I still listen to it every day. To beat the dac mini is a bonus for me.. My expectation in life is very small actually, the older I get the smaller it becomes. Hahaha..

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We are trying very hard. We are on schedule so far.

Thanks mgoodman for the update.
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