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Originally Posted by pekingduck View Post

is it the same one as the DACmini's?
A little less in the unbalanced configuration, about the same in balanced configuration. DACmini still beats it out in the unbalanced shoot-out by about 3dB.

It's a tight "balancing act" between loudness and battery life...
post #1667 of 5048
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Originally Posted by mgoodman View Post

But the end result is impressive -- this thing is almost as loud as DACmini, but portable!

 

Michael,

 

Congratulations on clearing a challenging hurdle.

 

I've got a question for you regarding your constant references to "loudness", though. I understand this is an amplifier, but do you really think it makes sense to refer to loudness over, say, refinement? After all, anyone could make a loud product...refined, that's a different story. Also, I doubt anyone really intends to encourage people who haven't already damaged their hearing to listen at loud levels. For me, half of the benefit of an amp is being able to listen at lower levels while still being able to discern all of the available "information".

 

I'd argue what you're bringing to the table is a combination of refinement, power, versatility, and utility. And I don't think you focus enough on the ability to play high-resolution files out of iDevices. As far as I know, this is the only transportable/portable DAC/amp combo that will be able to play 24/96 out of iDevices without a CCK. I doubt I need to sell you on how significant this achievement will be. 

 

I feel as if many manufacturers shy away from touting the benefits of solidly-mastered hi-res music simply because most people currently have primarily 16/44.1 files. With all of the advances with DACs, amps, and headphones, not to mention the ever-decreasing cost of storage, it seems silly not to lead people to hi-def music in much the same way as was done with video. Why pay for a 1080P television if you're going to stick with standard definition cable and DVD?

 

Right now, it seems you'll have the device to beat...at a very reasonable price, I might add. Within reason, the only ways to better it will be to decrease the size and/or integrate a DAP. Keep up the great work!

post #1668 of 5048
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Originally Posted by Chexxchexx View Post


I feel as if many manufacturers shy away from touting the benefits of solidly-mastered hi-res music simply because most people currently have primarily 16/44.1 files.

Solidly-mastered and hi-res DO NOT go hand in hand!

@mgoodman:

I don't want to be a party pooper but I just read your post about re-arranging the PCB layout for the LX model. It would seem to me that this product is in jeopardy of making a May release date. Is that a fair assessment?
post #1669 of 5048

Not to question your findings, but this guy has been working with the Apple idevice feeds for a while now and is in a position to know.

 

So I doubt it. 

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Excuse my ignorance if this has been answered.. Does it work with Android phone?

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Originally Posted by Audiowood View Post

Excuse my ignorance if this has been answered.. Does it work with Android phone?

If it could work with the usb to go on android phones like the galaxy s3 that would be amazing.
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Originally Posted by Trogdor View Post


Solidly-mastered and hi-res DO NOT go hand in hand!

 

Trogdor,

 

Agreed. That's the reason I mentioned the two in conjunction. 

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@mgoodman

 

if i have an iphone 4. Or ipod touch 5G what will be the highest music files rate it will be able to output( not store).

 

I know it can store 24/96 usually with an output down sample to maybe 16/44 or perhaps 24/44.

any improvements on this in the works?


Edited by ExpatinJapan - 3/24/13 at 12:31am
post #1674 of 5048

I have listen to 24/96 msic on my IPAD 2 jst yesterday. Works fine.

post #1675 of 5048

Yes, I/We/You know that later pad supports 24/96 via cck. Etc.

also that later ipod touches and iphones can store 24/96 files usually via an app(but not output at 24/96).

 

My question above is above whether the recent ipod/touch/phones models can store AND play 24/96 natively via hifi-m8.

 

 

 

*i understand if mgoodman may not have an answer yet if he is working on it.

post #1676 of 5048

Couple of new updates, including being able to charge off most common power adaptors.

http://centrance.com/products/new/blog/

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6.5hrs!
 
“Over-engineered” also means fewer headaches for the user

On effort alone, the CEntrance team has showed their commitment and dedication. Thank you.

post #1677 of 5048

the andriod support would make this the no 1 portable universal amp/dac. 

post #1678 of 5048
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Originally Posted by Chexxchexx View Post

 

Michael,

 

Congratulations on clearing a challenging hurdle.

 

I've got a question for you regarding your constant references to "loudness", though. I understand this is an amplifier, but do you really think it makes sense to refer to loudness over, say, refinement? After all, anyone could make a loud product...refined, that's a different story. Also, I doubt anyone really intends to encourage people who haven't already damaged their hearing to listen at loud levels. For me, half of the benefit of an amp is being able to listen at lower levels while still being able to discern all of the available "information".

 

I'd argue what you're bringing to the table is a combination of refinement, power, versatility, and utility. And I don't think you focus enough on the ability to play high-resolution files out of iDevices. As far as I know, this is the only transportable/portable DAC/amp combo that will be able to play 24/96 out of iDevices without a CCK. I doubt I need to sell you on how significant this achievement will be. 

 

I feel as if many manufacturers shy away from touting the benefits of solidly-mastered hi-res music simply because most people currently have primarily 16/44.1 files. With all of the advances with DACs, amps, and headphones, not to mention the ever-decreasing cost of storage, it seems silly not to lead people to hi-def music in much the same way as was done with video. Why pay for a 1080P television if you're going to stick with standard definition cable and DVD?

 

Right now, it seems you'll have the device to beat...at a very reasonable price, I might add. Within reason, the only ways to better it will be to decrease the size and/or integrate a DAP. Keep up the great work!

Sorry to be brief when discussing the output power of HiFi-M8.

 

"Loud" is our internal shorthand for "Output power high enough to drive the most demanding headphones".

post #1679 of 5048
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Originally Posted by zachchen1996 View Post


If it could work with the usb to go on android phones like the galaxy s3 that would be amazing.

We will test this as soon as we have everything else buttoned up. I have made no promises about Android, so will look into this later.

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Originally Posted by ExpatinJapan View Post

@mgoodman

 

if i have an iphone 4. Or ipod touch 5G what will be the highest music files rate it will be able to output( not store).

 

I know it can store 24/96 usually with an output down sample to maybe 16/44 or perhaps 24/44.

any improvements on this in the works?

I may need some volunteers to test this out (and there are clearly many of you here who would want to be the "Guinea pigs" for this) . There are many iDevices out there and we certainly don't have every single one here at CEntrance. So, in a short while, I may be requesting help from people who have the likely candidate hardware for these tests. First, I need to gather a list of devices that we would need to check M8 with.

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