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Hi 

I have upgraded to an iPhone 5 

Will the HIFI M8 be certified for use with the Iphone 5 and it's lightening connector?

Do you Know of the UK Retailers that will be stocking this? Ie Amazon etc?

Ta 

Richard

Certification is unknown yet. But it should work just fine.

post #1592 of 5057
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Cheers for that Eron

ahhhh well that may be well worth waiting for hmmmmmmm

I'm so close to getting a Fostex HP1 that I'm now not sure what to do :-/

it's giving me a headache! Lol

HiFi-M8 will have much louder output and balanced jacks. That's already working fine and is probably the biggest difference. 24/96 is another, which we still need to prove. Support for older AND newer iDevices is the third anticipated difference.


Edited by mgoodman - 3/14/13 at 11:28am
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HiFi-M8 will have much louder output and balanced jacks. That's already working fine and is probably the biggest difference. 24/96 is another, which we still need to prove. Support for older AND newer iDevices is the third anticipated difference.

How will the DACs themselves compare to each other?  The HP-P1 functions as a very good DAC setting a high standard.

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It's not my job to compare products :) And if I did that, I'd be booted out of here in no time flat.

All's I can say is that we take pride in everything we do. The market will ultimately decide...

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I have read the whole thread and I am excited about this product, it is exactly what I am looking for 2 years now.

 

Did I understand it right 24/96 will work on USB anyway, the question is only about I device? If so I vote for old iPod support.

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Thank you for your persistence. At this point reading the whole thread is a big job!

 

HiFi-M8 will support up to 24/192 on computers.

 

What we are discussing here is the portable device support (iPhone, iPad, etc.)

 

With computers, HiFi-M8 will cover the full range, just like any modern desktop DAC.

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In aiming for jack of all trades there is the risk of being master of none. It is the internet. At least one individual somewhere will say they need a feature no-one else cares for. If Apple can get away with Lightning transition then you can get away with dropping legacy support, if the trade-off is another area is enhanced. Heck not as if the M8 will not support 30 pin, which is a different point entirely. It is worth bearing in mind there will be hardware variants to choose from. Some may argue there should be more focus and less consumer confusion arising from an abundance of choice

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Thank you for your sobering opinion. There is a lot to be said about focus... And we are all still learning wink.gif

The changes we speak of are not significant. But I can see how my drive to provide entertainment value via the painstaking descriptions of daily life in an engineering lab may be putting some people off.
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Originally Posted by LFC_SL View Post

If Apple can get away with Lightning transition then you can get away with dropping legacy support, if the trade-off is another area is enhanced. Heck not as if the M8 will not support 30 pin, which is a different point entirely. It is worth bearing in mind there will be hardware variants to choose from. 

Apple transited to Lightning connectors that support all the other connectors it used to support through adaptors. It's unification more than dropping of support for connectors. Good analogy of this is for the unification of balanced connectors. 

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Since you guys have half your toes in the pro audio segment, any chance you might develop a device with multichannel output in the future? Something with 4 channels (with at least one set balanced) and selectable headphone output would be keen. Or slap on a mic input and you're now into the competitive AD/DA interface market. 

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IMO I reckon more people would complain about a lack of 24/96 support than old device support. Adding to that those "old" iPod's batteries are now dying or have died. Since every year will add more new devices and kill off more older ones it makes more sense to be future proof than past-compatible.

 

By the way, iPads will stream 192k audio, if someone hasn't already mentioned it. Still testing if it actually works as the only device I have that could show it (via a hub) barfed on the data.

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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post

Since you guys have half your toes in the pro audio segment, any chance you might develop a device with multichannel output in the future? Something with 4 channels (with at least one set balanced) and selectable headphone output would be keen. Or slap on a mic input and you're now into the competitive AD/DA interface market. 

Ahh, Pro Audio... Yes, it would be nice to get back there one of these days. You should see our idea wall... It's a place to salivate :)

But right now it's head down, push forward time... 

When talking about 4 channels, what application do you have in mind?

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Sorry if this has been covered - I looked at the specs and I'm not entirely sure what they mean, but I'm pretty sure these will drive (non-HE-6) planar dynamics, right?

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The latest:

 

http://centrance.com/products/new/blog/

 

It looks like Michael and crew are really doing the best they can within Apple's limitations. I am a bit disappointed that the latest 5G touch is not on that list with possible 24/96 support, but that disappointment is aimed squarely at Apple, not CEntrance. Really Apple should have been moving in this direction by now anyway...

 

Well if I want hi-res files, for the most part I am going to be using the M8 attached to a laptop and be getting the full 24/192 ability. For on-the-go...well, we will see...I had mentioned before that any 24/96 support from the i-devices is just a bonus, so it is a bonus that some models will get it. I look at it this way- ipods have never had hi-res support, this is Apple's fault.  CEntrance is doing the best they can here to wrestle a difficult problem. It was worth hoping for but I am not really that upset that my devices are not on that list. 

 

From the blog:

 

"Our goal with this (as with many other things) is to have the cake and eat it too. Has that modus operandi ever been in question?"

 

Not at all...


Edited by thegrobe - 3/15/13 at 7:55am
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Originally Posted by mgoodman View Post

Ahh, Pro Audio... Yes, it would be nice to get back there one of these days. You should see our idea wall... It's a place to salivate :)

But right now it's head down, push forward time... 

When talking about 4 channels, what application do you have in mind?

 

Mostly for DJ use such as cueing/mixing. For home use sometimes I'll have multiple different outputs going such as to a speaker & headphone, but I'm likely a minority who uses it that way. I currently have some Focusrite and Native Instruments gear that I use.

 

I like how the NI drivers actually interpret it as two separate output devices that you can select. Focusrite only sees one device, but you select the channel offset to determine output.

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