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Originally Posted by AudiOh View Post

thanks, I have been looking at these and was wondering if anyone had any experience with them in terms of the build quality. I don't need anything too rugged, mostly because I am looking for something that I could put into my bag to take my cans and HIFI-M8 back and forth from the office and home. The guy you mentioned does make this case: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Hard-case-Storage-Pioneer-HDJ-2000-1000-HDJ2000-HDJ1000-dj-headphones-/261173394572?pt=US_Rack_Cases_Hard_Cases_Bags&hash=item3ccf25bc8c with a nice foam insert and I just contacted him to see if he would be interested in making this setup for other cans.

 

That looks nearly identical to the Hifiman case.

 

On the squarish, non-customized ones, one of the zipper pulls had come off of its track.  If you aren't doing any rugged handling, the quality can still be good.

 

Also google flight cases for headsets.  They seem pretty nice for reasonable prices and some have extra pockets that might house the HifiM8.

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I had always thought at least with respect to headphones, 3-pin XLR was much more standard (or at least more prolific).

For sure, the dual 3pin is more widely spread right now, but more full size XLRs are showing up on balanced amps, and make much more sense than the 3 pin since the dual 3 pin are a cross over from pro gear and not used the same way for headphone cables.  The mini 4-pin XLR makes even more sense due to its compact nature and could easily replace all headphone connections, even non-balanced on anything but the smallest of amps.

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Michael,

 

I think there was a typo in your most recent blog post. You said there are four output configurations. Are you sure you didn't forget about the option with the mini 4-pin XLR?

 

I could be wrong, but this connector seems to be gaining steam with each passing month. The primary driver seems to be that folks such as me are using the connector in adaptor cables. It's particularly useful because it reportedly suits both portable and, let's call them, full-sized cables. I'd guess my "gaining steam" assumption would be confirmed if you were to ask, say, Drew over at Moon Audio or Ken at ALO. 

 
I'll gladly pay extra ($50 seems reasonable) and I'm not above begging...
 

As a sidenote, it would be fantastic if the equipment manufacturers could agree to one single-ended and one balanced option to be offered as standard. I've yet to see anyone prove conclusively that, say 1/8" or 1/4" and mini 4-pin XLR are substantially inferior to other competing options. Unfortunately, given the state we're in today, that seems to be wishful thinking. One certainty, though, is that consumers resent having to re-terminate cables every time we buy new equipment (amps and headphones, in particular).

 

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Originally Posted by Saraguie View Post

 

Michael, since we are getting so close (yea!) I think it would be good to state our choices for the front panel options, please?

Outputs are same as before:

1) 4-pin XLR + 1/4" + combo 1/8"

2) 4-pin RSA + 1/4" + combo 1/8"

3) Dual combo 3-pin jack

 

There will be also a version with dual male XLRs, which we will offer to the pro market (recording, broadcast, live sound, etc.), but that version is less attractive to the home community, so I haven't talked about it much.

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Interesting comment from noted audio equipment designer Tim de Paravicini:

 

As to balanced phones.  Actually all headphones are basically balanced as the ear pieces are 2 terminal devices and don't know any different.

There are usually 4 wires (2 per channel) that are wired at the Jack plug with 2 wires on the earth or common sleeve of the Jack.  The what some call balanced cables have to be connected to jack plug or adapters to plug in to the HP4.  It also is basically balanced but share only the sleeve part of the Jack sockets.  The comics have a lot to answer for this confusion.

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Originally Posted by fuzzyash View Post

does anyone know about the pricing on these?

especially the pricing between the centrance m8 and m8 LX?

on ttvj's website, it lists the spdif input option as $150 cheaper than the apple compatible version

Michael,

 

Can you clarify that the price of M8-LX on TTVJ's website is true? ($150 cheaper than the standard version)

http://www.ttvjaudio.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=CEN0000004&CartID=1

 

 

Moreover, TTVJ says M8-LX is available now. confused_face(1).gif


Edited by AdrianTW - 2/22/13 at 1:10am
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Michael,

 

Can you clarify that the price of M8-LX on TTVJ's website is true? ($150 cheaper than the standard version)

http://www.ttvjaudio.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=CEN0000004&CartID=1

 

 

If it is true, people who pre-ordered M8-LX spent more money than a retail price? ($560 > $549) eek.gif

Moreover, TTVJ says M8-LX is available now. confused_face(1).gif

Michael has clarified this a couple times now.  No one has a M8 in stock.  Read Michael's blog - they are still working on a couple different parts.  And I don't think anyone preorded an LX (and the preorder price isn't supposed to be shared publicly).

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Moreover, TTVJ says M8-LX is available now. confused_face(1).gif

To this, I go All-In and say NO WAY.  An M8 in any way, shape, or form has not been made for sale. TTVJ is noted to advertise products which it does not have and does not know when exactly they will be released.

 

I went down this exact road with the new Cypher Labs product with TTVJ. It's shameful really.

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Originally Posted by Saraguie View Post

 

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post #1086 of 1457
 

Outputs are same as before:

1) 4-pin XLR + 1/4" + combo 1/8"

2) 4-pin RSA + 1/4" + combo 1/8"

3) Dual combo 3-pin jack

 

There will be also a version with dual male XLRs, which we will offer to the pro market (recording, broadcast, live sound, etc.), but that version is less attractive to the home community, so I haven't talked about it much.

 

Saraguie,

 

That post was made tongue-in-cheek. I'm aware of the planned options. Just hoping to resurrect a discussion we'd had back in the day about a configuration with the mini 4-pin XLR connector. I've seen more and more people adopting this connector so I'm hoping the viability of this option is perceived to be heading in the right direction.

 

Assuming the larger connectors don't offer a true sonic or durability advantage, the smaller option just makes sense. And, the more people who adopt this connector, the more likely the connector manufacturers will offer them constructed with higher quality materials. 

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Originally Posted by FraGGleR View Post

For sure, the dual 3pin is more widely spread right now, but more full size XLRs are showing up on balanced amps, and make much more sense than the 3 pin since the dual 3 pin are a cross over from pro gear and not used the same way for headphone cables.  The mini 4-pin XLR makes even more sense due to its compact nature and could easily replace all headphone connections, even non-balanced on anything but the smallest of amps.

But its not a combo jack which is very convenient for portable applications.
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Originally Posted by Trogdor View Post


But its not a combo jack which is very convenient for portable applications.

True, but combo jacks, especially fullsize, are rarely found on portable amps.  And if you have everything terminated to a single standard (like the mini XLR), then you don't need combos.

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Originally Posted by Chexxchexx View Post

 

Saraguie,

 

That post was made tongue-in-cheek. I'm aware of the planned options. Just hoping to resurrect a discussion we'd had back in the day about a configuration with the mini 4-pin XLR connector. I've seen more and more people adopting this connector so I'm hoping the viability of this option is perceived to be heading in the right direction.

 

Assuming the larger connectors don't offer a true sonic or durability advantage, the smaller option just makes sense. And, the more people who adopt this connector, the more likely the connector manufacturers will offer them constructed with higher quality materials. 

Gotcha.....maybe it will be an option? beerchug.gif

 

I've ordered balanced cables to use with the full size so counting on those to be an option.

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I know at least one person ordered the LX Versionwink.gif

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My desired but utterly non-feasible output config: 1 x XLR4 for balanced headphones, and 2 x TRS that can be toggled between either balanced output (for pro audio use) or two separate headphone outputs. 

 

Realistically, if I ever decide to get the M8 and want to juggle between pro use and headfi, I'd probably get the dual combo jacks and make an adapter. I think the dual XLR3 to XLR4 might be the most common. If Centrance were to offer a hard low-profile adapter that fits right into the front panel, this might sway people. Or maybe that's just too niche for an already niche product. 

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Originally Posted by FraGGleR View Post

and the preorder price isn't supposed to be shared publicly

Sorry for forgetting the rules. eek.gif

 

FraGGleR, would you please help me remove the information of pre-ordering price quoted in your post? confused_face.gif

 

Many Thanks!

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