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ODAC vs Audioengine D1 vs HRT MS II for the HD 650 and the MK II

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 

Hi

 

I cant decide which one to buy

I have the sennheiser HD 650 and the Little Dot MK II

tbh they sound just great as they are but I have been told that I will need a DAC as well

 

What do you think ?

PS I am looking for a DAC for around $160 if you know any other choices


Edited by BulletProve - 8/12/12 at 8:21pm
post #2 of 12
Based on your headphones and amp, I'd suggest the ODAC. Your combo is mellow and smooth, and can tolerate the high resolving nature of the ODAC.
Edited by hodgjy - 8/12/12 at 8:24pm
post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 

Well thats embarrassing but I have just find out that there is ODAC's from Audio Poutine

I thought that ODAC means objective DAC which is from Objective JDS labs only

 

Can some one please explain to me what does it mean ?
 

post #4 of 12

The ODAC is open source.  Many builders can make it. 
 

post #5 of 12

I haven't heard the others, but I love my D1. I pair it with both my Little Dot and my Meier Jazz amps...it's a well built, solid little DAC. I actually want to buy another one so I can keep one in place in my main headphone rig and have another one to move about the house. Very hard to beat for $169, plus you get a capable headamp to boot...I use it primarily as a backup, but I know with my Grados it sounds surprisingly good. Lots of good options out there, though! 

post #6 of 12
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The ODAC is open source.  Many builders can make it. 

 

This is incorrect.  ODAC is closed source—as for why, there's an official version and some alternate takes (conspiracy theories), in case you're interested.  More info, a link to the schematic, and a picture of the PCB here:

http://www.yoyodyneconsulting.ca/pages/ODAC.html

 

ODAC resellers like JDSLabs, Audio Poutine, Epiphany Acoustics, and everybody else, buy the boards from the one actual source that's getting them made.

 

HRT MS II supports 32 kHz and 88.2 kHz in addition to the more standard 44.1 kHz, 48 kHz, and 96 kHz that both support.  Both can do 24-bit operation as well as 16-bit.  So I guess if you have music at 88.2 kHz sampling rate (pretty rare), the MS II means you can handle that without sample rate conversion.  I'm not sure about the Audioengine D1 (over USB).

 

If you believe their listed specs, it looks like the MS II has a little bit more noise, but that's definitely not going to matter when using the Little Dot MKII and not with the HD 650 either.  You might need very sensitive IEMs, a quiet room, and a really low-noise amp to tell the difference from background hiss, I'd guess.

post #7 of 12
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mikeaj View Post

 

This is incorrect.  ODAC is closed source—as for why, there's an official version and some alternate takes (conspiracy theories), in case you're interested.  More info, a link to the schematic, and a picture of the PCB here:

http://www.yoyodyneconsulting.ca/pages/ODAC.html

 

ODAC resellers like JDSLabs, Audio Poutine, Epiphany Acoustics, and everybody else, buy the boards from the one actual source that's getting them made.

 

HRT MS II supports 32 kHz and 88.2 kHz in addition to the more standard 44.1 kHz, 48 kHz, and 96 kHz that both support.  Both can do 24-bit operation as well as 16-bit.  So I guess if you have music at 88.2 kHz sampling rate (pretty rare), the MS II means you can handle that without sample rate conversion.  I'm not sure about the Audioengine D1 (over USB).

 

If you believe their listed specs, it looks like the MS II has a little bit more noise, but that's definitely not going to matter when using the Little Dot MKII and not with the HD 650 either.  You might need very sensitive IEMs, a quiet room, and a really low-noise amp to tell the difference from background hiss, I'd guess.

 

Alright that explain it all

About the ODAC

I see some diffrenses in the prices of them

Are they all going to give me the same performance since the board is one ?

I mean should I just get the cheapest ?

 

And btw which one is better you think, MS II or an ODAC ?

post #8 of 12
My mistake. I falsely thought that since the O2 was open source and that the designer of the ODAC is licensing its design for no personal profit, it was also open source. A quick read has proven my first statement as incorrect.
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Originally Posted by mikeaj View Post

This is incorrect.  ODAC is closed source—as for why, there's an official version and some alternate takes (conspiracy theories), in case you're interested.  More info, a link to the schematic, and a picture of the PCB here:
http://www.yoyodyneconsulting.ca/pages/ODAC.html

ODAC resellers like JDSLabs, Audio Poutine, Epiphany Acoustics, and everybody else, buy the boards from the one actual source that's getting them made.

HRT MS II supports 32 kHz and 88.2 kHz in addition to the more standard 44.1 kHz, 48 kHz, and 96 kHz that both support.  Both can do 24-bit operation as well as 16-bit.  So I guess if you have music at 88.2 kHz sampling rate (pretty rare), the MS II means you can handle that without sample rate conversion.  I'm not sure about the Audioengine D1 (over USB).

If you believe their listed specs, it looks like the MS II has a little bit more noise, but that's definitely not going to matter when using the Little Dot MKII and not with the HD 650 either.  You might need very sensitive IEMs, a quiet room, and a really low-noise amp to tell the difference from background hiss, I'd guess.
post #9 of 12
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Originally Posted by BulletProve View Post

 

Alright that explain it all

About the ODAC

I see some diffrenses in the prices of them

Are they all going to give me the same performance since the board is one ?

I mean should I just get the cheapest ?

 

And btw which one is better you think, MS II or an ODAC ?

The ODAC is a newer design then the MS II.

post #10 of 12
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Originally Posted by BulletProve View Post

 

Alright that explain it all

About the ODAC

I see some diffrenses in the prices of them

Are they all going to give me the same performance since the board is one ?

I mean should I just get the cheapest ?

 

And btw which one is better you think, MS II or an ODAC ?

 

The cheapest for you , for me it was head 'n' fi , there could be little difference like enclosure (though now there is a standard case) , RCA output , but it don't matter they work the same . 


Edited by HaVoC-28 - 8/13/12 at 3:02pm
post #11 of 12
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by HaVoC-28 View Post

 

The cheapest for you , for me it was head 'n' fi , there could be little difference like enclose , RCA , but it don't matter they work the same . 


RCA ?, I dont need those if I am going to use it on my PC only right ?

post #12 of 12
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Originally Posted by BulletProve View Post


RCA ?, I dont need those if I am going to use it on my PC only right ?

 

RCA output , there is some with Jack 3.5 outpout , and RCA output .  (edited above )


Edited by HaVoC-28 - 8/13/12 at 3:02pm
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