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post #796 of 2308
10/10/12 at 9:52pm
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Once upon a time, is a good start... worked for the Big Bad Wolf

 

Didn't he, uh, die?

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post #797 of 2308
10/10/12 at 9:54pm

whats the diff between 3ai 4ai and 8a.?

which one do you guys think is the best among these 3


Edited by virus12345 - 10/10/12 at 9:56pm
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post #798 of 2308
10/10/12 at 10:02pm
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whats the diff between 3ai 4ai and 8a.?

which one do you guys think is the best among these 3

well...the 8.A isnt 3 or 4 times the price of the other two for no reason...

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post #799 of 2308
10/11/12 at 3:09am
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Didn't he, uh, die?

 

he was a born martyr... the book was his legacy to the world, sad story but true... pigs have been getting fat for years on the book profits and you never see a skinny porker do you.

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post #800 of 2308
10/11/12 at 3:50am
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he was a born martyr... the book was his legacy to the world, sad story but true... pigs have been getting fat for years on the book profits and you never see a skinny porker do you.

 

Now that you mention it....

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post #801 of 2308
10/11/12 at 4:01am
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Originally Posted by OK-Guy View Post

he was a born martyr... the book was his legacy to the world, sad story but true... pigs have been getting fat for years on the book profits and you never see a skinny porker do you.

 

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post #802 of 2308
10/11/12 at 7:09am

sitting here after interrupting my my enjoyment of listening to David Gilmour's 'live in Gdansk' to watch that pile of hyped wolf claptrap, I have but one thing to say Tomscy... who do you wanna believe Walt Disney or one of the Big-Bad Wolf's quad brothers who is clearly mimicking the great man wolf?... don't suppose you noticed that the BBW never appeared in person during the whole video link, that only confirms to me that W.D's actual news-reel of the day is the definitive version of events... it's probably the three obese porkers that are behind all this malarkey, sales of the book have tumbled dramatically since the rise of Heir Audio, in-fact I'd go as far to say that they're just trying to milk the cash-cow of others hard efforts, still ain't that always the way when you have fat pigs at the top in society.

 

still time for a bit more of Gilmour... time for 'Shine On You Crazy Diamond'... well it was really wrote in the memory of the BBW yanno.


Edited by OK-Guy - 10/11/12 at 8:21am
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post #803 of 2308
10/11/12 at 7:33am
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Here is my review video of the 4.Ai as well as comparison to the Shure SE535!

 

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post #804 of 2308
10/11/12 at 8:11am

I don't doubt that the 4ai is better sonically when all is optimized but I think the Shure untrimmed triple is the worst tip supplied with them both comfort and sound wise. I think by just using that tip, you've compromised the comparison. What did you find uncomfortable about about the 530? I thought them more comfy than the 535. Their fit with a single flange is very similar to the Heir. Isolation with the triple or olive tip should be better than any single flange without foam but a tip with a seal is usually good enough.


Edited by goodvibes - 10/11/12 at 8:12am
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post #805 of 2308
10/11/12 at 8:20am
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I tried a huge range of tips with the Shures and found the triples to sound the best. That was from the tips I tried which was a fair few so I did not compromise the review at all. As for the 530s with whatever tips i used they would just make my ears sore, really sad really as I liked the sound as I do of the 535. The heir is just ultimately better.
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post #806 of 2308
10/11/12 at 8:34am

 Did you have some olives around as well? With those tripples, I found the highs even more rolled and without the stems trimmed almost impossible to get the shures flush. Just shows that we're all different. I guess I spoke too soon.


Edited by goodvibes - 10/11/12 at 8:35am
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post #807 of 2308
10/11/12 at 10:09am
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I guess I spoke too soon.

 

everyone is allowed their opinion be it good or bad... every review imo should be taken with a 'snifter of pepper', there's sources to consider (desktop or portable), music genres &  bit-rates, the age of the reviewer (ears change with age), consideration of when you're from in the world should be taken into account as things are tuned for different markets... no review is therefore definative as your ears are not their ears.


Edited by OK-Guy - 10/11/12 at 10:12am
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post #808 of 2308
10/11/12 at 10:55am
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Originally Posted by goodvibes View Post

 Did you have some olives around as well? With those tripples, I found the highs even more rolled and without the stems trimmed almost impossible to get the shures flush. Just shows that we're all different. I guess I spoke too soon.
Yeh Olives are the first things I went for, I use them on my DBA-02. I could not get the seal that triples give me and both ends seemed even more rolled off. I did take some fiddling but I could still get them flush in my ears, and the tips are REAL deep.

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everyone is allowed their opinion be it good or bad... every review imo should be taken with a 'snifter of pepper', there's sources to consider (desktop or portable), music genres &  bit-rates, the age of the reviewer (ears change with age), consideration of when you're from in the world should be taken into account as things are tuned for different markets... no review is therefore definative as your ears are not their ears.
Indeed and all my music was 24/44.1 WAV from the tera player which is a cometley transparent source, really lets the earphones do there thing. Obviously I used my iPod nano and cricri as well with mainly ALAC and then even used my desktop set up of D1 DAC and O2 with audirvana plus. They both sounded different with each source and the 535 become really quite bassy with the Zo (was rumble and everything) but overall opinion is the same. As for genres I listen to all what I like as well as overs as part of evaluations. I make a thorough conclusion if earphones and never rush!
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post #809 of 2308
10/11/12 at 10:57am

  I gotta say, Anaxilus was spot on, these 4.AIs aren't really neutral, more like a warm, midrange oriented sound though the highs aren't lacking. A tad much midbass/lower midrange warmth and the midhighs a bit too conservative. Results in a safe sound that many will enjoy, really is a an upgrade to the A161P as mentioned, they're similar but these take it up a level. Will get more in-depth for the full review. From what I'm using, Etymotics aside, I think the EX1000 may be technically better by a bit, still though the EX1000 is pricier and it can go either way as I'm still evaluating. 

 

  3AI was a disappointment, no need to edit that, but that's taking my criteria. Even accepting it's heavy coloration I think this kind of sound has too much competition for a much lower cost like the XBA3 and TF10. I think for a lower price, these will do much better imo. 


Edited by Inks - 10/11/12 at 10:59am
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post #810 of 2308
10/11/12 at 11:04am
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Nice analysing, not comedy's agreement from what I hear but you look at sound a bit different to me. However, the EX1000 are slightly v shaped, have more bass presence and spikey treble, as well as being slower with less clarity, would you not agree with that and therefore make the Heirs technically better?
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