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Hey guys I've been looking for 2.1 speaker systems and the ones I've been looking are the classics but I realize they're all a few years old or more. What I'm looking for is something very powerful and something that I can actually buy without being ripped off from those who have the last pieces in stock.

 

Bass is important to me!

 

Klipsch Promedia 2.1

Logitech Z-2300

Logitech Z623

Corsair SP2500

Sony SRSDB50

 

What I'm looking for: I'm looking for the most powerful 2.1 stereo system that will rattle my whole freaking house and drop the bass when I need it to! Though I care about sound quality very much, it will be a secondary factor in my decision. What I really want is a speaker system that will blow my face off when I'm close to it.

 

I am NOT looking for a 2.0 speaker system.

 

What I'm willing to pay: How good is the system? I may be able to go up to $300 USD. Throw whatever you want at me and if I can justify it, then it will be in the running.

 

 

If anyone has any input on any of these systems, I'd also appreciate that.

 

 

 

Thank you!


Edited by xedjflowx - 8/3/12 at 7:11pm
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Originally Posted by xedjflowx View Post

Hey guys I've been looking for 2.1 speaker systems and the ones I've been looking are the classics but I realize they're all a few years old or more. What I'm looking for is something very powerful and something that I can actually buy without being ripped off from those who have the last pieces in stock.

 

Bass is important to me!

 

Klipsch Promedia 2.1

Logitech Z-2300

Logitech Z623

Corsair SP2500

Sony SRSDB50

 

What I'm looking for: I'm looking for the most powerful 2.1 stereo system that will rattle my whole freaking house and drop the bass when I need it to! Though I care about sound quality very much, it will be a secondary factor in my decision. What I really want is a speaker system that will blow my face off when I'm close to it.

I am NOT looking for a 2.0 speaker system.

What I'm willing to pay: How good is the system? I may be able to go up to $300 USD. Throw whatever you want at me and if I can justify it, then it will be in the running.

If anyone has any input on any of these systems, I'd also appreciate that.

Look on Craigslist for a used receiver with a 2.1 speaker set.

Plug the receiver in your computer's optical output.

post #3 of 17
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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post

Look on Craigslist for a used receiver with a 2.1 speaker set.

Plug the receiver in your computer's optical output.

 

Not exactly sure what you mean. Sorry for being a noob.

 

So buy for example a Logitech Z623 (since its quite easy to obtain) and hook it up somehow to a receiver.

Would something like this suffice?? http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sony+-+200W+2.0-Ch.+Stereo+Receiver/4550834.p?id=1218487074629&skuId=4550834

Would that amplify the sound without making the speakers and bass 'crackle' ?

 

Also, would you suggest any certain 2.1 speaker system?

post #4 of 17
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Originally Posted by xedjflowx View Post

 

Not exactly sure what you mean. Sorry for being a noob.

 

So buy for example a Logitech Z623 (since its quite easy to obtain) and hook it up somehow to a receiver.

Would something like this suffice?? http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sony+-+200W+2.0-Ch.+Stereo+Receiver/4550834.p?id=1218487074629&skuId=4550834

Would that amplify the sound without making the speakers and bass 'crackle' ?

 

Also, would you suggest any certain 2.1 speaker system?

For use with an A/V receiver, I mean regular home stereo speakers (and Sub-woofer), not "computer" speakers (Z623).

Get the Asus Xonar DX or D1 sound card (used $50) for use with the Logitech Z623.

A A/V receiver is a wast of cash (over kill) for use with the Z623.

Lots receivers are not even designed to work with 2.1  "computer" speakers.

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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post

For use with an A/V receiver, I mean regular home stereo speakers (and Sub-woofer), not "computer" speakers (Z623).

Get the Asus Xonar DX or D1 sound card (used $50) for use with the Logitech Z623.

A A/V receiver is a wast of cash (over kill) for use with the Z623.

Lots receivers are not even designed to work with 2.1  "computer" speakers.


Thanks for the help mate.

 

I don't have the luxury of having a rig let alone a desktop. All my music is stored on my Sony Vaio laptop. I sometimes play .flac using VLC and mostly play 320kbps on iTunes.

 

Any way I could amplify my Z623 if I were to get that one??

post #6 of 17
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Thanks for the help mate.

 

I don't have the luxury of having a rig let alone a desktop. All my music is stored on my Sony Vaio laptop. I sometimes play .flac using VLC and mostly play 320kbps on iTunes.

 

Any way I could amplify my Z623 if I were to get that one??

Laptop, ok, then what you really need is an external DAC (Digital to Analog Converter)

The Dac Destroyer, USB-DAC, sells on eBay for around $50-$60 and ships from Canada.

you would need an RCA to female mini-jack cable for the connection (to the Z623), like this one.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10218&cs_id=1021815&p_id=5612&seq=1&format=2

 

If you can get the Logitech Z623 for a really good price(?), then you might as well get it.

 

The Logitech Z623 already comes with it's own built in amplifier.

post #7 of 17

If u are bent on cheaply built muddy sounding PC speakers forget about FLAC and just stick to MP3s - even MP3s these speakers would not do justice @@ I'd go with the suggestion by PurpleAngel about proper speakers, subs and receivers L3000.gif

post #8 of 17
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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post

Laptop, ok, then what you really need is an external DAC (Digital to Analog Converter)

The Dac Destroyer, USB-DAC, sells on eBay for around $50-$60 and ships from Canada.

you would need an RCA to female mini-jack cable for the connection (to the Z623), like this one.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10218&cs_id=1021815&p_id=5612&seq=1&format=2

 

If you can get the Logitech Z623 for a really good price(?), then you might as well get it.

 

The Logitech Z623 already comes with it's own built in amplifier.

 

Thanks for the help man I will look into it.

 

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Originally Posted by trog View Post

If u are bent on cheaply built muddy sounding PC speakers forget about FLAC and just stick to MP3s - even MP3s these speakers would not do justice @@ I'd go with the suggestion by PurpleAngel about proper speakers, subs and receivers L3000.gif

 

LOL, I know they wouldn't be done justice. But it's not like .flac still doesn't sound better on my current 2.1 system from like 2 decades ago (Altec Lansing ACS65i). Therefore, FLAC will definitely sound better on any new system I buy. It's not like FLAC is priced more anyway.

post #9 of 17

My advice would be to forget trying to achieve what you are after for $300.  In my opinion you will need to spend almost that on a USB soundcard (DAC) then you will need to spend a simlar ammount on a dedicated amp and another $200+ on speakers.  Alternatively you could buy active monitors and sub fed straight from the DAC and skip teh amp/passive route.  I think your budget is not going to achieve what you are looking for. 

 

I would look at upping your budget to $500 or not bother, and spend it in a very specific manner.

 

$100-150 on a DAC, you can get a pretty good idea of models in this range from the dedicated source components threads and here in the computer audio forum.

Once you have selected a DAC in your price range then DOUBLE that budget for your AMP/SPEAKERS or for active monitors and Sub.  If you decide to buy 8" monitors you may not need a sub, but I would think it may work out cheaperr to get a 4.5"-5.5" active monitor and seperate Sub.

 

I would be to look into Fiio products for your DAC as the price/performance ratio is pretty good.  Then if you choose the active monitor route both KRK and Behringer offer pretty good value depending on you location in the world.  Buying a dedicated amp and speakers offers you a lot more options but I doubt you will get as good quality for your investment, quality speakers that can handle good LOUD music cost a LOT of money.

 

Skipping the DAC is like saying I want volume and no quality, if you start with a bad laptop sound and amplify it you are just going to increase the bad signal to a loud mess that you cant appreciate.  The DAC in your laptop is likely a very low quality unit capable of "average" sound at best.

 

Spend a few weeks researching the benefits of a dedicated DAC and active monitors then ask yourself is it worth doubling your budget.

 

HTH

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Originally Posted by Tablix View Post

My advice would be to forget trying to achieve what you are after for $300.  In my opinion you will need to spend almost that on a USB soundcard (DAC) then you will need to spend a simlar ammount on a dedicated amp and another $200+ on speakers.  Alternatively you could buy active monitors and sub fed straight from the DAC and skip teh amp/passive route.  I think your budget is not going to achieve what you are looking for. 

 

I would look at upping your budget to $500 or not bother, and spend it in a very specific manner.

 

$100-150 on a DAC, you can get a pretty good idea of models in this range from the dedicated source components threads and here in the computer audio forum.

Once you have selected a DAC in your price range then DOUBLE that budget for your AMP/SPEAKERS or for active monitors and Sub.  If you decide to buy 8" monitors you may not need a sub, but I would think it may work out cheaperr to get a 4.5"-5.5" active monitor and seperate Sub.

 

I would be to look into Fiio products for your DAC as the price/performance ratio is pretty good.  Then if you choose the active monitor route both KRK and Behringer offer pretty good value depending on you location in the world.  Buying a dedicated amp and speakers offers you a lot more options but I doubt you will get as good quality for your investment, quality speakers that can handle good LOUD music cost a LOT of money.

 

Skipping the DAC is like saying I want volume and no quality, if you start with a bad laptop sound and amplify it you are just going to increase the bad signal to a loud mess that you cant appreciate.  The DAC in your laptop is likely a very low quality unit capable of "average" sound at best.

 

Spend a few weeks researching the benefits of a dedicated DAC and active monitors then ask yourself is it worth doubling your budget.

 

HTH

I totally agree with this approach. A good set of Berhinger studio monitors (very good for the price) with an entry level dac will def sound better than any pc speakers. And trust me a 50 watts or so monitor will be extremely loud. If not enough bass for you, later on add a sub when money becomes available. Better build up and be happy for a long time than just go with pc speakers IMO 

post #11 of 17

I just put together a 2.1 system for myself and it has been nothing but absolutely fantastic!

 

Here's what I did.

 

I bought the Polk Monitor 30's

700

A Velodyne VX-11 Subwoofer

700

 

And a Denon AVR-1312 to drive them.

700

 

I hooked up the sub via an RCA cable with the sub out on the receiver.

 

Now I didn't buy a separate DAC because I send digital signal into the receiver via HDMI from my computer. The receiver decodes everything for me and eliminates the need to buy a second piece of equipment. I got lucky though and had a video card that could send audio through HDMI as many video cards don't do this....well, at least older ones. Your case will be different on how you hook everything up.

 

The speakers and sub themselves are absolutely amazing sounding and will shake your entire house if you want it too. They are very clean sounding though and sound good with every type of music I've thrown at it, which is pretty much everything.

 

This is just an example though, don't feel you need to do exactly as I've done. There are TONS of other routes you can take and some will fit your needs better than others. Think about it for a while and don't make a rash decision to buy something immediately.

post #12 of 17

I'd do the rokit 5 studio monitors with a cheap sub from craigslist. That's my desktop setup and sounds amazing.

post #13 of 17
Thread Starter 

Thanks for all the help guys!!

 

I've changed my mind - again.

 

My original plan was to go wth studio monitors and after finding out that my local Guitar Center is having a weekend sale on studio monitors, I'm probably going to be coming home with some Behringers, KRK's or Mackies. We will see and I will keep this thread updated incase otherwise. Anyway, I'm going to still be needing the wires (which I have no clue which ones I'll need) and a subwoofer (but that can wait).

 

Like it says above, if anyone could help me figuring out which cables I'd need, that'd be greatttt.


Edited by xedjflowx - 8/8/12 at 7:41pm
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I do not know where you are located, but I have an Onkyo  HTX-22Hd with a huge subwoofer that will definitely be better than those Logitechs. I am in the UK and for a few mor pounds will throw in a central and 2 rear speaker to make it a quadrophonic setup or even 5.1 if you want.

post #15 of 17
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Originally Posted by xedjflowx View Post

Like it says above, if anyone could help me figuring out which cables I'd need, that'd be greatttt.

 

Anyone who can help, I would love it if you did.

 

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Originally Posted by Szadzik View Post

I do not know where you are located, but I have an Onkyo  HTX-22Hd with a huge subwoofer that will definitely be better than those Logitechs. I am in the UK and for a few mor pounds will throw in a central and 2 rear speaker to make it a quadrophonic setup or even 5.1 if you want.

thanks for the offer but no thank you..

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