I have to admit I was completely wrong about the HD25 velours. I'm listening to them right now and they make a HUGE difference for the better. I had adjust the headphones a little to give better clamp force and I don't like the pads with a flat EQ. But after those minor adjustments they sound AMAZING. The mids and details stick out even more which to me is orgasmic. The only downside is a loss in bass impact, but the positives outweigh the negatives in this case. I'm really considering the ATH pleathers now.
Also, these make my ears hotter than the stock pads. People complain about sweat with the stock pads and it doesn't make sense to me. These velours make my ears hot really fast.