tried hd25 velours. still piercing. there is nother problem for me: these nicely build but crapy sounding headphones have zero soundstage, layering and imaging. even the already congested sounding k518 has better depth and layering. maybe it is just me, but i think i stumbled in the overhype trap again.
Interesting....you hear them differently than I do. I went back to stock pads because the HD25 velours muffled things to my ears. While I agree the soundstage isn't the biggest, I think the imaging is pretty good.
They say everyone's ears are different, I guess we have another example of that here.