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Originally Posted by hatefulsandwich View Post


Sorry, dude, it seems like you've been left hanging here. I don't have the ELE yet, but most opinions have been that it's a great little DAC for the money. I personally bought it because my computer's built-in sound is horrible and it sounds lie it makes a drastic improvement. On the other hand, if you have come from higher-end gear, then it might not be your cup of tea? Or just might not be your cup of tea anyway?
Have you tried it with other 'phones? Maybe the synergy with the S500 doesn't suit, but it'll work with other cans. What music have you been trying to listen to?

I don't have any other high end DAC or anything similar, this is my first DAC since I didn't want to spend more. I was thinking to go for a USB Creative/Asus DAC that have a double price so I preferred the ELE since it could be even better than these.

 

I usually listen through my Vaio Laptop which has a built in Realtek HD, pretty standard I think chipset.


The strange thing is than when I watch for example films the synergy is just great especially the 3D depth of sound. Also the soundstage is fuller and better in all cases. I've tried some trance DJ sets that I downloaded only for burning process and there it seems better than my built in source.

 

Unfortunately when I go to more "hard" sounds I loose clarity and bass. For example Kyuss - Demon Cleaner sounds even a bit muddy at some points

I also feel that I'm loosing the more detailed bass of some hip-hop songs, like Nas.

 

Could it be the fact that I haven't yet reached the required hours burning the s500?

 

Now I only have Radiopaq Jazz IEM to test with the DAC and they are not a great source of reference.

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Are the O-rings from Ace Hardware 3/16"?  I tried those and they are a smaller diameter.....the 3/16" from the web site I linked are 3/16", and I have never had a problem with them coming off!


The ones from Ace are 3/16".  They're working fine.  Only come off if I pick them up the wrong way or catch something when I move them.  It's a brilliant solution.

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Unfortunately when I go to more "hard" sounds I loose clarity and bass. For example Kyuss - Demon Cleaner sounds even a bit muddy at some points

I've got admit that Kyuss has some of the muddiest-sounding recordings I have ever heard regardless of what I listen to them through. I've always loved Demon Cleaner as a song, but it's really not a very clear song. It is stoner rock and hence the Fuzz guitar effect is almost constantly used. And as you might have guessed by its namesake, Fuzz makes things.... fuzzy. It can intrude on everything. Apologies if you know all this stuff already.

I would say that you may well need to burn them in a bit longer, but I honestly find the S500 bass can be a little flabby (for me) sometimes - but overall its sound signature is not mud.

Interesting that you mention the synergy with film because I've always found that the strongest point of these 'phones regardless of having the ELE or not.

EDIT: Give this song a listen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iWyCBMcZEk&sns=em (try find it in better quality if you can). I was always struck by how clear-sounding that song is (to me). If it sounds muddy to you, then... I may be very annoyed when my ELE arrives wink.gif. Their song "Diokhan" is also a pretty interesting listen because it's a rather busy, layered song. Lots of vocal tracks, interesting guitar. I can pick the individual elements in it very nicely, so hopefully you can too.
Edited by hatefulsandwich - 1/6/13 at 2:00pm
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How do these compare to my trusty old HA-RX700? 

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I've never owned the HARX700, but I seem to recall it being mentioned that these are better than any of the HARX offerings. or just about any of the previous JVC cans (high-end Victor models and the sort aside). The carbon nanotube technology has been a boon for JVC, I think.
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How do these compare to my trusty old HA-RX700? 


They don't. These are a much higher end sound over the HA-RX cans.

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Hey guys, just wanted to ask whether the Denon AH-D1100 are better than the s500 as they are going around the same price of the s500 at the moment. Thanks.

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Hey guys, just wanted to ask whether the Denon AH-D1100 are better than the s500 as they are going around the same price of the s500 at the moment. Thanks.
Ask somewhere besides an appreciation thread for an honest answer! tongue.gif
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Ask somewhere besides an appreciation thread for an honest answer! tongue.gif

Well i own them aswell but im finding the bass isnt that great. 

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Originally Posted by koreanzombie View Post

Well i own them aswell but im finding the bass isnt that great. 


I want MO' BASS on my S500s as well. haha Can never enough of that SEXY CNT LUSH BASS!!! Thats why the FXZs is a must for me it seems......triportsad.gif basshead.gif

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Hey guys, just wanted to ask whether the Denon AH-D1100 are better than the s500 as they are going around the same price of the s500 at the moment. Thanks.

I had the D1100's awhile back and the S500 is a much better sounding phone.  I didn't care for the bass of the D1100 at all.  Too boomy and mid-bass heavy.  Much better control on the S500 and much better midrange and clarity also.  

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Have I hit gold?  Yes, I believe so.  Quite possibly so.  After reading through the posts regarding the Audio Technica M50 pads, and a reduction in bass; the additional implements (O-Rings) to make the HM5 pads have a better seal on the air gap, etc., I believe I might have a more realistic solution to bring out the best in the HA-S500 to really make them bloom and not sacrifice any of the bass - in any way.  Yet this solution introduces an over-the-ear pad that is very, very comfortable and doesn't seem to collapse down a bit like the HM5 pads.  My ingredients are provided below and I'm currently just wearing the JVCs with the ear pads set in place but I'll soon develop a better method to adhere them to the JVC ear pad mounting system.

 

The secret sauce - Sennheiser HD-428 pads.  These pads have a flat, built-in oval ring on the back of the pads which keep them rigid, plus when the oval ring sits on the baffle of the HA-S500, there are not any air gaps to speak of.  Plus, these pads are insanely cheap and a very recent check on eBay revealed a vendor selling them in the U.S. for just under $13.00 for the pair, plus about $1.90 in postage.  The following pictures will give you a better perspective on how these pads would easily integrate onto the HA-S500 headphones. In my first paragraph, I mentioned that the original bass of the HA-S500 did not decrease in any way.  Also, with my "test fit" scenario, I did not touch any of the vents with tape removal, tape installation, etc.  The HA-S500 remain in their original, stock form so that the only focus required would be to "neaten" the mounting system a bit for a more professional look.  The sound that's coming out of these as I listen to Cassandra Wilson at the moment is just sick.  Her "throaty" vocals and speaking to me like very few headphones have ever done before.

 

Here are the pads showing the proportion variances between the oval Sennheiser HD-428 pads and the round baffles on the cups of the HA-S500 headphones:

 

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This picture provides a view of the flat backs on the Senneheiser HD-428 pads.  The oval / flat rings for support are thin, but are concealed under the acoustic cloth on the backs of the pads.

 

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Here is a shot of the HD-428 pads "resting" on the baffles of the HA-S500 cups, giving you a perspective of how they'll appear as viewed on the ear side of the cups.

 

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Finally, here is a "face down" shot of the cups as they would appear on the outside, with the oval Sennheiser HD-428 pads.

 

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With these pads, my work and search has just ended.  While I've been focusing on sewing some decent on-ear style pads out of various comfort materials, I think it would be most prudent to focus my efforts on developing a good system to mount these pads, while keeping the aesthetically appealing.

 

Oh, the Joy! beerchug.gif

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With these pads, my work and search has just ended.  While I've been focusing on sewing some decent on-ear style pads out of various comfort materials, I think it would be most prudent to focus my efforts on developing a good system to mount these pads, while keeping the aesthetically appealing.

 

Oh, the Joy! beerchug.gif

 

Looks potentially awesome wje! Looking forward to seeing the mounting solution!

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^ hmmmm i think cute has already tried something like your setup but with the Shure SRH840 pads instead, if you read back on some of his posts here you will find the solution he used in which was also pretty ingenious.

 

Cute it's time for you to dig that mod up from the grave and let wje breath some new life into it.

 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002Z9JWZS/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

 

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Alright found it for you wje, happy reading and i hope it works for those senn pads. Good Luck meng.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/621063/the-new-jvc-ha-s500-appreciation-fan-thread/2505#post_8809910

 

Report back with your findings, really interested to see how this mod goes.

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