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post #2356 of 6339
10/17/12 at 9:39pm
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Originally Posted by audiomagnate View Post

I REALLY don't like these headphones. They have nice detail in the mids and highs, but the bass is just bad and resonates in the cups at 70 to 90. They hurt my ears, physically and acoustically. Live and learn. You get what you pay for. These cans are nasty. Very forward in the upper mids like bad old JBLs, boomy mid bass, no depth. I don't get it.

 

Sounds like yours aren't broken in yet. I've always been a little dubious about burn-in having any effectiveness, but it did make a difference on these headphones.

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post #2357 of 6339
10/17/12 at 9:39pm
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Originally Posted by audiomagnate View Post

I REALLY don't like these headphones. They have nice detail in the mids and highs, but the bass is just bad and resonates in the cups at 70 to 90. They hurt my ears, physically and acoustically. Live and learn. You get what you pay for. These cans are nasty. Very forward in the upper mids like bad old JBLs, boomy mid bass, no depth. I don't get it.


I'll gladly take those evil cups of torture off your hands if you hate it so much. biggrin.gif How much time have you had them, give them a chance and some of that deep pounding bass burn-in. And maybe try some different pads..................... as others with comfort issues has been doing.

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post #2358 of 6339
10/17/12 at 9:46pm
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Originally Posted by WAYNENUMM View Post

 

I have the ATH leathers on my S500 now. I knew that the sound that I was looking for was somewhere in the S500. But with the stock pads, I sadly wasn't quite getting it. Actually to be honest, I was finding it to be somewhat fatiguing to listen to after a while. I'm old (48) and I think that I'm getting a bit of tinnitus in one of my ears, and the s500/stock pads seemed to be aggravating that somewhat. Maybe it was the bass that I was a bit too much for me, although I thought that maybe the treble was bothering me somehow also. I had the feeling that the mids were not as forward as I would prefer (I kept comparing the mids to my almighty modded ksc75's lol).

Anyway, just like how I was astonished with how the memory foam tips on the FX40 change it's sound so much, I am equally astonished at how well the ATH leathers on the S500 changes the sound for me. Dsnuts, nobody can ever call you nuts lol! As you said, the mids are fuller, and the sound is beautifully balanced now. Full. Lush. Detailed. Still plenty of bass, but it just sounds amazing to me. Not fatiguing to me now at all. I can crank up the volume, and nothing is overpowering - everything is beautiful. Unreal!

So, I guess you could say that I'm a S500 + ATH leathers believer now, and the S500 actually is living up to the hype. I'm pretty damn happy camper right now. Thanks to dsnuts and doc and rick and all of you other crazy S500 fanatics - you done good!

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Edit: Oh yeah, the ATH leathers really are quite a bit more comfortable - awesome added bonus :)


Go spread that CNT gospel brother!!! LoLoLoLoLO

 

You sure don't sound that old to me, thought you were in your late 20s haha

It's good to know that these S500s are getting some lovin' by people from all walks of life and ages. beerchug.gif

 

edit: good to hear that the ATH Pleathers are killing it for you on these S500s, there are just so many different change ups for these S500s in which can cater to your sound preferences, just nuts!


Edited by sfwalcer - 10/17/12 at 9:50pm
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post #2359 of 6339
10/17/12 at 9:51pm
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Well I think we have our first. Never seen a headphone that pleases everyone. These had a long streak though. These don't seem to be for you. I bet it will be an easy sell on the sale forums.. I would suggest you try new pads but if you already have it in your mind that you don't like them then I suppose it is best to try another. I suppose you didn't do any type of burn in either.?

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post #2360 of 6339
10/17/12 at 9:51pm
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Originally Posted by audiomagnate View Post

I REALLY don't like these headphones. They have nice detail in the mids and highs, but the bass is just bad and resonates in the cups at 70 to 90. They hurt my ears, physically and acoustically. Live and learn. You get what you pay for. These cans are nasty. Very forward in the upper mids like bad old JBLs, boomy mid bass, no depth. I don't get it.

 

In addition to burning them in aggressively for a while (which I am also still doing), you really would be doing yourself a disservice if you don't try out the ATH leather pads. After doing so, I would be surprised if your opinion doesn't turn around completely.


Edited by waynes world - 10/17/12 at 9:53pm
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post #2361 of 6339
10/17/12 at 10:21pm
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Originally Posted by WAYNENUMM View Post

 

In addition to burning them in aggressively for a while (which I am also still doing), you really would be doing yourself a disservice if you don't try out the ATH leather pads. After doing so, I would be surprised if your opinion doesn't turn around completely.


I knew it. I had a feeling you was gonna like that sound. Amazing how the sound goes from a consumer type sound to a more refined one with a pad change no? I give all the credit to cute. He is the pad rolling master. He is good at finding tips too. I just report like I hear it. You enjoy them headphones. 

 

And keep them on the burn in. A little suggestion for everyone on this thread. When your not using them. Keep them burning. Forget how many hours you are doing this with. Remember 20X stronger than steel= carbon nanotubes. You know how some guys claim that " the longer I use them the better they sound," description. You guys think about it. If these don't truly have the potential to do just this I don't know what would. What if 200 hours of aggressive burn in is just getting them started. Both my HA-S400 and HA-S500 will be plugged in burning away.. I know it sounds crazy. Bottom line keep them burning.

 

Gee..Wish you could hear my UE6000 with Noise Cancelling on. It is noise cancelling cuz it throws out 5db of extra eyeball shaking bass. Lol. You would love this sound I guarantee it. I was thinking about how you wanted a nice upgrade. For your sound preference. Save up and try out a UE6000.


Edited by Dsnuts - 10/17/12 at 10:40pm
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post #2362 of 6339
10/17/12 at 10:56pm
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Originally Posted by Achmedisdead View Post

Sounds like yours aren't broken in yet. I've always been a little dubious about burn-in having any effectiveness, but it did make a difference on these headphones.

Ive always been the same way on burn in. But i agree with these it seems different.
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post #2363 of 6339
10/17/12 at 11:42pm
Damn, these are sounding good. Muse, radiohead, king crimson, dave mathews, audioslave, bebel gilberto, yes, jeff beck, rush... Doesn't matter - all sounds friggin awesome :-)
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post #2364 of 6339
10/17/12 at 11:44pm
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Originally Posted by audiomagnate View Post

I REALLY don't like these headphones. They have nice detail in the mids and highs, but the bass is just bad and resonates in the cups at 70 to 90. They hurt my ears, physically and acoustically. Live and learn. You get what you pay for. These cans are nasty. Very forward in the upper mids like bad old JBLs, boomy mid bass, no depth. I don't get it.

My reaction to the sound of the new out of box HA-S500 was similar - bass was simply unacceptable.  I did burn them in well, and things much improved. Based on your previous posts confirming your very high experience in audio in general, with the expectations for the new equipment to match, I would suggest the following:

 

1. Burn in. No matter what is your opinion on this burn in thing,  even if you totally disagree with the idea/notion - give it a try. Results should change  your current dissapointment.

 

2. After that, if you feel there are still resonance(s) in the cups ( there are...), you can try damping the cups. Somewhere in the first 1/4 of this by now mamoth thread are nice pics of a mod by cyloh - the ones with red thin felt/fabric. I used similar mod with fabric and no more boomy midbass, at least acceptable depth, etc, etc - in short, fit for someone with Infinity RS2,5s ! 

 

3. If the sound after 1. and 2. deviates into any direction you do not like, check what changes in sound described using various pads on HA-S500

bring to the table and get the pads that would bring the performance of HA-S 500 most to your liking. Pads are no small change, they can change the 

the sound signature completely. Obviously, they can't fix 1. or 2. !

 

Just don't give up !

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post #2365 of 6339
10/17/12 at 11:58pm
How tough is the headband, my friend said he had a pair like these and they snapped? Do you have to be careful or can they take a bit of a beating?rolleyes.gif
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post #2366 of 6339
10/18/12 at 12:24am
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How tough is the headband, my friend said he had a pair like these and they snapped? Do you have to be careful or can they take a bit of a beating?rolleyes.gif

I don't know I haven't been beating on mine. smily_headphones1.gif

You would have to be pretty rough with your phones to break them, but they are a more stiff plastic than lets say the HD25 so I don't think they would respond to well to being sat on or anything but they wont break from normal use.
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post #2367 of 6339
10/18/12 at 12:32am
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How tough is the headband, my friend said he had a pair like these and they snapped? Do you have to be careful or can they take a bit of a beating?rolleyes.gif

I /think/ they are stronger than the $1.50 parts express headband that I got for my ksc75's. But, I'm not going to verify that for you ;-)
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post #2368 of 6339
10/18/12 at 6:35am
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Originally Posted by invalid404 View Post

Again, wow, these answers are exactly what I was looking for! I think I will drop the 12$ extra on the ATH pads... L3000.gif


Hi there InvalidGuy... what other headphones you had before the S500?

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post #2369 of 6339
10/18/12 at 6:46am
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Originally Posted by audiomagnate View Post

I REALLY don't like these headphones. They have nice detail in the mids and highs, but the bass is just bad and resonates in the cups at 70 to 90. They hurt my ears, physically and acoustically. Live and learn. You get what you pay for. These cans are nasty. Very forward in the upper mids like bad old JBLs, boomy mid bass, no depth. I don't get it.

 


Simple. get some pads recomended on these thread,  thats the same reason i dont use the Stock pads, i rather use some cheapo Coby Pads on these things to tame that bass.

the bass from stock pads is to much for me.

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post #2370 of 6339
10/18/12 at 9:04am
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Originally Posted by rickdohc View Post

 


Simple. get some pads recomended on these thread,  thats the same reason i dont use the Stock pads, i rather use some cheapo Coby Pads on these things to tame that bass.

the bass from stock pads is to much for me.

This from a guy with XB700's in his sig? blink.gif

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