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Hmmm.... I think I will have to get those ATH pads, and they're only 12$!

post #2342 of 8119
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Originally Posted by invalid404 View Post

Hmmm.... I think I will have to get those ATH pads, and they're only 12$!

 

Yes, I hope they work for me. This post describes dsnuts opinions:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/621063/the-new-jvc-ha-s500-40mm-carbon-nanotubes/1755#post_8737733

 

In it he says:

 

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Ya you are late to the pad party. We got more than the stock pads these come with going on. We first tried some velours. Sennheiser HD25 velours fit but not the best optimal sound from them. Then there was the ATH velours bought on ebay. Flattens the bass end.  Then there is the HD25 pleathers which clears up the mids form the HD velours and then there was the ATH leathers which ends up sounding perfect as it will get. 

 

We are experimenting with different pads. Yes sound tuning through pads. Each pads brings a different sound to the HA-S500. They all sound pretty good to my ears but some change the stock sound much more than others. The ATH leathers opens up the sound channel. Lessens the bass a bit with a bit mid forward sound which ends up sounding fantastic. I think you will enjoy these headphones as all of us have. This pad swap is just extra.

 

That was essentially what I initially based my ATH leather spontaneous purchase on (that, and the fact that they are so cheap, so not much to lose if they don't work out). Dsnuts is saying that the ATH leathers "opens up the sound channel, lessens the bass a bit with a bit mid forward sound". That sounds good to me. But unless I am reading Doc wrong, Doc is saying "and to me increase the bass even more, provide good bass impact but lean more toward a fun V shaped sound with mids and vocals more distant.". I won't be thrilled with the ATH leathers if they make the mids and vocals more distant. But, I guess (hope) I will find out soon enough!

post #2343 of 8119
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actually what happens with the ATH pleathers. It lessens the Bass end about 2dbs. It has the same effect if you EQed your bass end lower on stock pads. The sound opening on the ATH pleathers are 1/4 wider than the stock pads giving the drivers more room to throw out the sound. The mids are not effected but it comes out even cleaner and fuller because there is less bass end. It actually balances out the sound..It will be a sound preference thing but I keep the ATH leathers on mines as I love the balanced sound on these more than the bass emphasis that is using the stock pads. Not to mention these are way more comfy over stock pads.

 

Gives the HA-S500 a nice cleaner balanced sound..The impact is still there and that solid sub bass but a bit lesser, but now with fuller mids and them sparkly extended highs.

post #2344 of 8119
I agree with Dsnuts 100%!
post #2345 of 8119
It could be the case for most. For me the ATH Pleather's with this headband, they are the only pads so far that give me a proper seal and thus more bass. I seem to be the only person having that problem I guess. As y'all know i even modded the cups to turn the other way once to get my HD25 pads to seal properly, but now I just tilt them off the back of my head and I can achieve it.

I will have to try the stock holding them on my head to see what you guys are hearing cuz to me it is the exact opposite. Those ATH pleather's are just so soft and comfy to me and seal great.
post #2346 of 8119
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Originally Posted by WAYNENUMM View Post

 

Thanks! So to re-phrase the "S500 pad summary according to Doc":

 

- ATH velours: more open sound, loss of bass, loss of midrange, more treble

- Senn HD25 pleathers: brings midrange more forward, sparkle off of highend.

- ATH leathers: comfy, increase bass, mids and vocals more distant, V shaped

 

I think this might be somewhat dependent on the user.  I get more of a bass attenuation (about 4-6 db down from stock) but the pads sit differently on my ears... my ears are a bit inside them.  I think in turn I've also lost some isolation, so I think that's a good bit of the difference.  I could see how perhaps if the stock pads didn't create a good seal that the larger ATH pleathers could.

 

They literally look almost like the exact same pad, just a bit larger in diameter.

post #2347 of 8119

Again, wow, these answers are exactly what I was looking for! I think I will drop the 12$ extra on the ATH pads... L3000.gif

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I will have to try the stock holding them on my head to see what you guys are hearing cuz to me it is the exact opposite. Those ATH pleather's are just so soft and comfy to me and seal great.
 

Yeah, this is definitely it for me.  Just a bit of pressure and bass goes way up for me w/ the ATHs.  Specifically it's coming from the front of the pad.  If these rotated a bit forward I don't think it would happen.

 

The ATH pleathers are only more comfy for me as they don't sit on top of the cartilage ridge on my upper ears, but they feel like the same stuff otherwise.


Edited by bobeau - 10/17/12 at 5:39pm
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OK, apparently my brother hadnt seen the delivery notice, and my ath leathers have been sitting at the post office for the last 6 days! D'oh! Anyway, I have them in my grimey paws and I am compelled to ask this really dumb newbie question... how do you get the stock pads off?
post #2350 of 8119
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Originally Posted by WAYNENUMM View Post

OK, apparently my brother hadnt seen the delivery notice, and my ath leathers have been sitting at the post office for the last 6 days! D'oh! Anyway, I have them in my grimey paws and I am compelled to ask this really dumb newbie question... how do you get the stock pads off?

 

Like w/ most headphones, they pull off around the perimeter.  Put your finger under the pad on the inside and pull away from the cup and it will become loose, just work your way around the cup.

post #2351 of 8119
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Originally Posted by bobeau View Post

Like w/ most headphones, they pull off around the perimeter.  Put your finger under the pad on the inside and pull away from the cup and it will become loose, just work your way around the cup.

LOL! Incredibly easy! Thanks.
post #2352 of 8119
I definitely felt the ATH leathers lessened the bass and just a little too much for me. It's a sound preference thing though so even though they added more detail to the overall sound, I missed the bass too much.
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Are there any pads that won't affect the bass but will give me better comfort? Or should I just try them stock and wait and see what I want? 


Edited by invalid404 - 10/17/12 at 7:55pm
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I REALLY don't like these headphones. They have nice detail in the mids and highs, but the bass is just bad and resonates in the cups at 70 to 90. They hurt my ears, physically and acoustically. Live and learn. You get what you pay for. These cans are nasty. Very forward in the upper mids like bad old JBLs, boomy mid bass, no depth. I don't get it.


Edited by audiomagnate - 10/17/12 at 9:22pm
post #2355 of 8119
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

actually what happens with the ATH pleathers. It lessens the Bass end about 2dbs. It has the same effect if you EQed your bass end lower on stock pads. The sound opening on the ATH pleathers are 1/4 wider than the stock pads giving the drivers more room to throw out the sound. The mids are not effected but it comes out even cleaner and fuller because there is less bass end. It actually balances out the sound..It will be a sound preference thing but I keep the ATH leathers on mines as I love the balanced sound on these more than the bass emphasis that is using the stock pads. Not to mention these are way more comfy over stock pads.

 

Gives the HA-S500 a nice cleaner balanced sound..The impact is still there and that solid sub bass but a bit lesser, but now with fuller mids and them sparkly extended highs.

 

I have the ATH leathers on my S500 now. I knew that the sound that I was looking for was somewhere in the S500. But with the stock pads, I sadly wasn't quite getting it. Actually to be honest, I was finding it to be somewhat fatiguing to listen to after a while. I'm old (48) and I think that I'm getting a bit of tinnitus in one of my ears, and the s500/stock pads seemed to be aggravating that somewhat. Maybe it was the bass that I was a bit too much for me, although I thought that maybe the treble was bothering me somehow also. I had the feeling that the mids were not as forward as I would prefer (I kept comparing the mids to my almighty modded ksc75's lol).

Anyway, just like how I was astonished with how the memory foam tips on the FX40 change it's sound so much, I am equally astonished at how well the ATH leathers on the S500 changes the sound for me. Dsnuts, nobody can ever call you nuts lol! As you said, the mids are fuller, and the sound is beautifully balanced now. Full. Lush. Detailed. Still plenty of bass, but it just sounds amazing to me. Not fatiguing to me now at all. I can crank up the volume, and nothing is overpowering - everything is beautiful. Unreal!

So, I guess you could say that I'm a S500 + ATH leathers believer now, and the S500 actually is living up to the hype. I'm pretty damn happy camper right now. Thanks to dsnuts and doc and rick and all of you other crazy S500 fanatics - you done good!

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Edit: Oh yeah, the ATH leathers really are quite a bit more comfortable - awesome added bonus :)


Edited by waynes world - 10/17/12 at 9:18pm
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