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post #541 of 1520
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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post


Unfortunately, my high end listening experience is limited.  I do like these more than the PSB M4U2 which is more neutral but less dynamic and fun.  I think the D600 is far superior to the AKG K550 and is comparable to the Ultrasone Signature Pro and Edition 8 which are both much more expensive.

 

Wow Craigster75, You and I do have rather different tastes. My apologies for the past few weeks telling you to wait, wait, wait, till the various brands and models to be released on the market. But I understand your requirements more now.

post #542 of 1520

I really have no idea why, but I've just placed an order for a D7100. Yet another expensive headphone is really the last thing I need, but then again I always was intrigued by the higher-end Denons.

By the way, thanks to the guy who posted the discount code for 20% off!

 

Once I get them I'll write a short comparison between the D7100, the HD600 & the HD800 if anyone's interested.

post #543 of 1520
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Originally Posted by jronan2 View Post

Thats fine. I heard the high end Ulttrasones were really good, I don't trust their mid-fi cans though. I had the Pro 900 and thought it was the biggest over hyped headphone ever, I rip it apart whenever I can on here whether people like it or not. I should wait and hear more impressions on the D600 i honestly think its a nice looking headphone and I think it will rock with EDM, which is basically only thing I listen to. I really want to hear more impressions between the D7000, the D7100, and the D600. I really want to buy a new headphone its been way over a year since I got a new headphone, and I dont want to spend $2k on the TH900 so hopefully more people get the headphones. If you listen to EDM or things of that nature you would be foolish not to own one of the denons their amazing for it. 

Don't do that, it tells more about you than about the PRO900. rolleyes.gif

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post #545 of 1520
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Originally Posted by olegausany View Post

I still have my not sold HD650 and heard them thru too many configs (half of them owned/still own) and they lack deep sub-bass with most of them but sound excellent with Maverick Audio TubeMagic D1 and good with E17 (EQ on) while D600 sound very close to D7000 but D7000 have more refined clarity details textures. I heard D2000 to long time ago but remember too well that HD650 sound much much better than D2000 and believe that D600 will outperform D2000 every way

Comparing denons and the HD650 is difficult at best, unless you have an amp like the Gilmore Dynalo (wire with gain) because from I figure they both want different things from their amps. 

(jsut a statement - not disagreeing with you or anything.)

 

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Originally Posted by yellowssm View Post

thats good to hear cause i was deciding between the d600 and the akg k550's. now i gotta decide on an amp

K550 are excellent ONLY FOR MOVIES and isolation. They have a resonance in the upper mids - which is nasty. Unfinished AKG at its best.

 

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Wow Craigster75, You and I do have rather different tastes. My apologies for the past few weeks telling you to wait, wait, wait, till the various brands and models to be released on the market. But I understand your requirements more now.

 

Yeah I agree, Craigster75's impression may be  bit hyped, or more to say to his tastes. Does not mean everyone will agree. I probably won't like them. Not now anyway.

post #546 of 1520
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Originally Posted by yellowssm View Post

thanks. Arent there better portable options than the e17 for that price range


I don't believe so, but this one seems interesting.

 

http://www.jdslabs.com/item.php?fetchitem=c421

post #547 of 1520
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Originally Posted by jronan2 View Post

Thats fine. I heard the high end Ulttrasones were really good, I don't trust their mid-fi cans though. I had the Pro 900 and thought it was the biggest over hyped headphone ever, I rip it apart whenever I can on here whether people like it or not. I should wait and hear more impressions on the D600 i honestly think its a nice looking headphone and I think it will rock with EDM, which is basically only thing I listen to. I really want to hear more impressions between the D7000, the D7100, and the D600. I really want to buy a new headphone its been way over a year since I got a new headphone, and I dont want to spend $2k on the TH900 so hopefully more people get the headphones. If you listen to EDM or things of that nature you would be foolish not to own one of the denons their amazing for it. 


I completely agree with you about the Pro 900.  It is bass heavier, but the Denon nails the mids and highs perfectly compared to the harsh and tinny "nails on a chalkboard" highs on the Pro 900.  I burned-in overnight and am already picking up a more neutral, smoother sound with tighter bass.  Woke, up, skipped the coffee and  three S's; went straight for my Ipod and D600.

post #548 of 1520
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post

 

Wow Craigster75, You and I do have rather different tastes. My apologies for the past few weeks telling you to wait, wait, wait, till the various brands and models to be released on the market. But I understand your requirements more now.


When you said the Denon was muddy and I listened to them I thought the same thing :)  No apologies for waiting, always good to see what is coming around the corner.  I still preordered the M-100 and I really look forward to comparing those.  I must say that I feel better about Denon as a company based on how professionally they handled the launch of their new line in comparison.

post #549 of 1520
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post
Wow Craigster75, You and I do have rather different tastes. My apologies for the past few weeks telling you to wait, wait, wait, till the various brands and models to be released on the market. But I understand your requirements more now.

 

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Originally Posted by WiR3D View Post
Yeah I agree, Craigster75's impression may be  bit hyped, or more to say to his tastes. Does not mean everyone will agree. I probably won't like them. Not now anyway.

Glad I can help you determine which headphones to avoid with my recommendations....

post #550 of 1520

Craigster> How would you compare D600's bass quantity versus PRO900 and M-Audio Q40 (these two should have roughly the same amount) and is it balanced in terms of mid / subbass? Plenty of impact & punch? Tight? Extension? Does D600 have more or less in-your-face mids/vocals compared to PRO700MK2 / Q40?

 

Since I know Craigster and I have a very similar taste I'm quite interested in D600 now too haha, I will wait until your impressions on the M100 before deciding what to do. :P


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 8/22/12 at 6:22am
post #551 of 1520
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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post

Craigster> How would you compare D600's bass quantity versus PRO900 and M-Audio Q40 (these two should have roughly the same amount) and is it balanced in terms of mid / subbass? Plenty of impact & punch? Tight? Extension?

 

Since I know Craigster and I have a very similar taste I'm quite interested in D600 now too haha, I will wait until your impressions on the M100 before deciding what to do. :P


The bass quantity on the D600 will be fine for non-bassheads, some might even say too much, but I wish they provided more.  The bass falls a little short of the "WOW" bass you hear with the PRO900, Q40 and PRO700MK2.  The D600 might be slightly more lacking in subbass compared to midbass.  However, comparing the whole package, I believe the D600 is a league above the others mentioned.  Vocals shine on the D600 without going supernova.  In the old stranded on a deserted island scenario and being able to only choose one pair of headphones, it would be the D600.

 

I found the D400 for $200 yesterday and figured, why not?  So I have them coming too and will evaluate their self-described "brutile bass".


Edited by Craigster75 - 8/22/12 at 6:37am
post #552 of 1520
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Originally Posted by yellowssm View Post

looks like its not an amp unless im reading it wrong. that and it needs to be plugged in via usb so no go for the portable iPhone/ipod route frown.gif
That is correct, sorry had no idea you need it for iPhone but remember you will use E17 as amp only
post #553 of 1520
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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post


The bass quantity on the D600 will be fine for non-bassheads, some might even say too much, but I wish they provided more.  The bass falls a little short of the "WOW" bass you hear with the PRO900, Q40 and PRO700MK2.  The D600 might be slightly more lacking in subbass compared to midbass.  However, comparing the whole package, I believe the D600 is a league above the others mentioned.  Vocals shine on the D600 without going supernova.  In the old stranded on a deserted island scenario and being able to only choose one pair of headphones, it would be the D600.

 

I found the D400 for $200 yesterday and figured, why not?  So I have them coming too and will evaluate their self-described "brutile bass".

 

OK, I don't think I wanna sacrifice the bass at this point since I listen mostly to hardstyle these days where bass is like 60% of the focus of the music, it's not about the strength necessarily but the sound of it as a hardstyle kick is very complex structed of different bass elements, I've found just M-Audio Q40 together with ZO2.1 a good replacement for a somewhat quality subwoofer setup, the Q40 + ZO2.1 has the right amount of bass for me, don't think I can settle for less, it would take out the drive from this music.

 

Gotta love this hobby, sounds like $600 isn't a big deal to spend on some headphones. :P


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 8/22/12 at 8:14am
post #554 of 1520

Maybe you should try some of the old denons they are good for that sort of music. D2000/5000/7000

post #555 of 1520
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

Maybe you should try some of the old denons they are good for that sort of music. D2000/5000/7000

 

What I've read, not satisfying enough bass for my standards (more like lack of snappy "attack", it's too slow and soft, probably lack of midbass for my taste), basicly I don't want less bass impact than currently and the Denons are slightly too bright for my taste (perhaps D5000 is ok), the Denons would be a downgrade in that regard. I think M100 is probably gonna be more up my alley.

 

Here's two examples of what I listen to a lot these days:

 


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 8/22/12 at 8:38am
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