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post #121 of 1554

if any of the denon marketing team is reading this thread, they must be shaking in their kimonos. 

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post #122 of 1554
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If these are the impressions for the D600 and 7100 - I don't even WANT to hear the impressions for the hyper-bass D400's...

Also, until reading that last post, I had no idea Denon was a Japanese company - cool beans! I always thought it was mainly Sony and AT.
post #123 of 1554

Wait wait, there's barely been any impressions yet.

 

Let them flow in first....

post #124 of 1554

I had only about 5-10 minutes with them, but can see they will have fans. I'm just not one as I really do like more sparkle in my music. The D7100 simply didn't have enough of it for me. They are nice, but they will have their fans and their detractors - very probably contenders for FOTM polarity contest. 

post #125 of 1554

At £1000 it'll be hard for the d7100 to become the latest bigtime FOTM

 

Maybe knocking off a zero on the end would help.

post #126 of 1554
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At £1000 it'll be hard for the d7100 to become the latest bigtime FOTM

 

Maybe knocking off a zero on the end would help.


AMEN BRUTHA. I expect that at that price I'm getting a flagship planar, or a dynamic with driver support rigidity and more planar wavefront up the wazoo (AKA HD800), not just a typical dynamic...

 

Kojaku

post #127 of 1554
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AMEN BRUTHA. I expect that at that price I'm getting a flagship planar, or a dynamic with driver support rigidity and more planar wavefront up the wazoo (AKA HD800), not just a typical dynamic...

Kojaku

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At £1000 it'll be hard for the d7100 to become the latest bigtime FOTM

Maybe knocking off a zero on the end would help.

LOL

Have you even auditioned the D7100?
post #128 of 1554
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LOL
Have you even auditioned the D7100?


Nope, but that doesn't change the expectation, at this price, of a can that has a quick wavefront render (which, physically speaking, is always slower with a spherical image rather than a planar or "donut" image [as in the planars or the HD800]) and a driver suspension that arrests excess resonance well (dual push-pull diaphragm on LCD2/3, Rigid frame and materials on the HD800). I suppose it isn't fair to assume that, for example, the D7100 doesn't have Leona Plastics, but I very very much doubt it. There's just nothing about the design that, technically, screams performance, and at this price I expect more than just tasteful tuning. I mean...It could be amazing as all hell, but the initial read doesn't seem to point that way...

 

Kojaku

post #129 of 1554

Does anyone have a comparison to t5p/sig pro's? 

post #130 of 1554

I have been A-B-C-D-E-ing them primarily with the LCD-2.2, D2000, MDR7520, and DT 880-600.

 

These are my very imperfect, non-golden-eared impressions.

 

Compared to the LCD-2.2: V-shaped compared to the LCD2, which in this case means too much bass, but closer to the right amount of treble. If I turn down the bass on the 7100, and turn up the treble on the LCD2, the Freq Spectrums are pretty ballpark close.

 

Compared to the D2000 - It is bass heavier, a bit boxy, but in a different way than the 2000. Isolates better. The overall character is quite different. No family resemblance at all, except for the cable. More like an articulate, good-looking adopted brother with a big, but muscular butt. Okay, maybe that wasn't too useful.

 

Compared to the MDR7520: less v-shaped, but otherwise has the closest freq curve to my hearing. However, the 7100 has better controlled bass.

 

Compared to the DT 880-600: 7100 is way bass heavier, and more v-shaped overall, but the treble seems less sibilant, and overall separation seems a bit better.

 

Just for full disclosure, I am looking for an overall reference HP for sound design and recording, etc. My present reference is the LCD2, with the DT880 as confirmation for treble. Except for the bass and the slight boxiness, the 7100 would work pretty well. The choice could be between boosting the treble on the LCD2, or turning down the bass on the 7100. EQ-ing bass is a lot trickier (and more critical) than eq-ing treble. I like the 7100s for regular listening. (Maybe I like more bass than I want to admit). The bass is there, but it doesn't muddy up the rest of the sound. At this point, I will probably return them.

 

I might compare them to the SRH1840, K550, and HD650 later just for the heck of it.

post #131 of 1554
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LOL
Have you even auditioned the D7100?

 

Sorry.

I was meaning that any headphone priced at a grand isn't really going to take off as the bigtime FOTM. Something near enough a hundred dollars/pounds can though- like the fiio's, ie8, m50, this, that...

 

I never talk about sound emanating from a headphone i've never owned or auditioned thoroughly. Principle.

 

 

 

@ gonkulator

Can you please comment on its sound stage characteristics? How big, wide, tall, airy (compared to other closed phones like the d2k, k550 especially)

post #132 of 1554
post #133 of 1554
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XB700 is slightly V-shaped but not TOO bad, especially it's slightly recessed in the lower-midrange and has a very slight highs-emphasis but yea nothing too bad IMO, the vocals did still sound reasonably "weighty" on it for sure and wouldn't call it hollow sounding.

 

Yes, I agree. So imagine the XB700 with very bright treble and bumped mids.

 

Perhaps I made a mistake. The vocals are more hollow/thin on the D600 than XB700, even though they're more recessed on the XB700.

post #134 of 1554

Would love a few more opinions on the 600s. I'm actually somewhat of a fan of the new design - I appreciate the classic look of the previous Denon series, but I do think the new look is quite sleek and modern.

 

Almost pulled the trigger when the discount was available, kicked myself when the price shot back up, and now am in the terribly annoying zone of want-but-worried-it's-not-for-me. Satisfied with my Senn 598s indoors but really would like a pair to travel with. They sound like they'd fit my niche of use outside the house where IEMs are not a great option. The bass isn't a huge concern for me as I do favor slightly bassy headphones. As there's not a nearby place to demo the 600s to my knowledge, I'll be eagerly awaiting further reviews.

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post #135 of 1554
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LOL
Have you even auditioned the D7100?
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Nope


'Nuff said.
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