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post #136 of 178
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It all comes down to which combination of colorations-- or lack thereof, you like at the end of the day.  It's a purely subjective hobby for the most part afterall.  One of the most erratic and subjective reviewers-- Mike, over at heafonia, generally agrees that the O2 is a solid amp, but hates it on most of the popular cans on head-fi like HD650, he says (the amp-- not the headphones) sounds too thin and anemic with the HD650.  With the HE-400 he loves the O2.  Wonder why that is? rolleyes.gif

Hating the O2 with HD650 is one of the rare times I agree with Mike. I can't stand it. I wouldn't call it anemic per-se, but it's studio-flat-analytical sounding in the worst sort of way. Very unlistenable to me, it's like listening to the bits off the disc instead of music. Impressive that HD650 can be so analytical and revealing...it demonstrates why it was so popular for so long for classical engineering studio work

HE-400 is definitely much more tolerable on O2, and I can even see why some people could like it. It's easily listenable but still makes HE-400 tilt toward the sharp detil and analytics rather than the more euphonic sounding Lyr (or many other amps, both tube and SS.) For those who like it etched and analytical it's a good match. Persionally I prefer O2 with headphones that are kind of out of control or tend to distort more euphonically on their own like Denons. For more flat headphones I always prefer a warmer, more euphonic amp

As you say, it's all preference.
post #137 of 178
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Hating the O2 with HD650 is one of the rare times I agree with Mike. I can't stand it. I wouldn't call it anemic per-se, but it's studio-flat-analytical sounding in the worst sort of way. Very unlistenable to me, it's like listening to the bits off the disc instead of music. Impressive that HD650 can be so analytical and revealing...it demonstrates why it was so popular for so long for classical engineering studio work

That's how I felt the VHP1 + HD 580 was. Even the 701 had more life to it...redface.gif
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HE-400 is definitely much more tolerable on O2, and I can even see why some people could like it. It's easily listenable but still makes HE-400 tilt toward the sharp detil and analytics rather than the more euphonic sounding Lyr (or many other amps, both tube and SS.) For those who like it etched and analytical it's a good match. Persionally I prefer O2 with headphones that are kind of out of control or tend to distort more euphonically on their own like Denons. For more flat headphones I always prefer a warmer, more euphonic amp
As you say, it's all preference.

I'd have to say your preference pretty much nails it imho. Compliment don't aggravate.
post #138 of 178
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 Compliment don't aggravate.

 

Okay. Let's see: 'you're a nice person'. How's that?

 

Or did you mean "complement"?

 

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Okay. Let's see: 'you're a nice person'. How's that?

 

Or did you mean "complement"?

 

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How are you with 'p-e-d-a-n-t-i-c' ? rolleyes.gif

post #140 of 178
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Okay. Let's see: 'you're a nice person'. How's that?

Or did you mean "complement"?

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How are you with 'p-e-d-a-n-t-i-c' ? rolleyes.gif

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post #141 of 178
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How are you with 'p-e-d-a-n-t-i-c' ? rolleyes.gif

 

My favourite word. How did you know?

 

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post #142 of 178
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My favourite word. How did you know?

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Do you mean "favorite" ? tongue.gif
post #143 of 178
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Do you mean "favorite" ? tongue.gif

 

Don't even get me started on phonetic spelling. 

post #144 of 178
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Don't even get me started on phonetic spelling. 

It's not phonetic, it's American. tongue_smile.gif

IEM,

We're *really* off topic now....sorry.
post #145 of 178
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It's not phonetic, it's American. tongue_smile.gif
IEM,
We're *really* off topic now....sorry.

 

LOL, no complaints here, it's an enjoyable little thread with a collection of some of the more interesting characters from around the boards! biggrin.gif

post #146 of 178
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Do you mean "favorite" ? tongue.gif

 

Certainly not! You think I'm some damn yankee?  biggrin.gif

 

We subjects of the British Empire are very attached to our 'u's.

post #147 of 178
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We subjects of the British Empire are very attached to our 'u's.

Here here!  But U said it not me. biggrin.gif

 

Anyways.. IEM have you got your HE6's yet?? lookng forward to some impressions

post #148 of 178
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Here here!  But U said it not me. biggrin.gif

 

Anyways.. IEM have you got your HE6's yet?? lookng forward to some impressions

 

I definitely have!  The impressions are still early, but I posted a few pages back that my initial impressions were up on the HE-6 thread.  Which is also a few pages back now, but I do have to dig out what page I posted them on originally for Ardilla anyway biggrin.gif

 

The short answer is that they are indeed fantastic! I'm still learning the ropes with them and going through a few collections.  I did some random listening from my huge collection for a few days, then did a single album the other day.  I also have been learning the ropes of the new amp at the same time.  The little servo motor that rotates the physical volume knob when you change the volume from the remote took me out.  I haven't seen that feature before, I assumed like the old amps I've had/seen that there was just no remote control support of volume with a real physical pot.  Not so, it's still a physical pot and a motor to spin it.  Played with low volume listening (with and without "loudness" mode), played with tone controls, etc.  A stand-out feature of HE-6 is how EQ-able it is.  tone controls or full fledged EQ.  It's highly adaptable unlike some other cans that have peaks that get a little funky as you start pushing the curves.  So on albums where the treble gets a bit to bright for me, it handles bumping the treble down very well redface.gif

 

I have longer "day 1" impressions a few pages back in the HE-6 thread if you dig a bit.  And I'm going to give it a few more weeks of living with it before I have more definitive experience with them to report cool.gif 

 

They're keeper's, though.  I have my Q cable already on order for them redface.gif

post #149 of 178

Hi All,

 

I converted 150 of my cds over to ALAC.  Tried FLAC as well.  Could not really tell the difference and using IPOD so ALAC made sense.  Not sure what happened.  If it was burn in or music conversion but where as before I was listening to the 400s at 5 -5.5 now I am listenining very comfortably at 3 on the E11.  Quality is excellent.  Feels like I am listening to my tubes on my vandersteens with less sound stage.  Have to say I have listened to the the LCD2 many times over as I was going to buy.  I think the 400s kill the LCD2s with rock music and heavy metal.  The darker tound works better there.  If you are a huge rock person I would go 400s over LCD2s.

 

Sincerely,

Larry

post #150 of 178
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Originally Posted by IEMCrazy View Post

 

I definitely have!  The impressions are still early, but I posted a few pages back that my initial impressions were up on the HE-6 thread.  Which is also a few pages back now, but I do have to dig out what page I posted them on originally for Ardilla anyway biggrin.gif

 

The short answer is that they are indeed fantastic! I'm still learning the ropes with them and going through a few collections.  I did some random listening from my huge collection for a few days, then did a single album the other day.  I also have been learning the ropes of the new amp at the same time.  The little servo motor that rotates the physical volume knob when you change the volume from the remote took me out.  I haven't seen that feature before, I assumed like the old amps I've had/seen that there was just no remote control support of volume with a real physical pot.  Not so, it's still a physical pot and a motor to spin it.  Played with low volume listening (with and without "loudness" mode), played with tone controls, etc.  A stand-out feature of HE-6 is how EQ-able it is.  tone controls or full fledged EQ.  It's highly adaptable unlike some other cans that have peaks that get a little funky as you start pushing the curves.  So on albums where the treble gets a bit to bright for me, it handles bumping the treble down very well redface.gif

 

I have longer "day 1" impressions a few pages back in the HE-6 thread if you dig a bit.  And I'm going to give it a few more weeks of living with it before I have more definitive experience with them to report cool.gif 

 

They're keeper's, though.  I have my Q cable already on order for them redface.gif

Good good, pleased you're happy with them. For me a sign of a good headphone shouldn't WOW you with anything on first listen, shows theres nothing artificial with the sound. Also as I'm sure you are aware, plannars definately need burn in!  I'll have a look on the HE6 thread. Enjoy

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