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If you really think you want something better than E11, then forget about E17 and aim for something higher. Do you have a budget in mind? Since we are talking about tube amp, does it means portability isn't a requirement?

I can keep the E11 for a portable if it's not a big difference from the E17. The E11's sound great to me or it's more the HD650. The E11 does come loose a little from the MacBook just got to push it back in. Will a 150.00 to 225.00 budget for a tube amp make a big difference and will I still need a Dac? Thanks

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I can keep the E11 for a portable if it's not a big difference from the E17. The E11's sound great to me or it's more the HD650. The E11 does come loose a little from the MacBook just got to push it back in. Will a 150.00 to 225.00 budget for a tube amp make a big difference and will I still need a Dac? Thanks

 

You can get a really cheap tube amp for that budget (search eBay for 'Indeed G3') but I am not sure it will actually be better than E11. You budget will fit a Modi + Magni combo from Schiit Audio. I haven't heard it myself but might worth a look since impression are generally very positive. One USB DAC+amp  that I do know is great is the iFi Audio iDAC, but it is a bit over your budget.

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You can get a really cheap tube amp for that budget (search eBay for 'Indeed G3') but I am not sure it will actually be better than E11. You budget will fit a Modi + Magni combo from Schiit Audio. I haven't heard it myself but might worth a look since impression are generally very positive. One USB DAC+amp  that I do know is great is the iFi Audio iDAC, but it is a bit over your budget.

If your not sure the G3 will be a nice difference, I will just hold I that one. I heard the MM combo is nice but it would have to be worth over the e11 but if you have not tried it I can wait, I believe like you, others like it a lot. The IFI audio is not easy to find. Also reliability is also a big issue when reviews bring up issues it could be a deal killer. Like we talk about before the volume doesn't have to go very high, and on the e11 volume seems to be enough.  Thanks ClieOS

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Just to say, the HD650 isn't that "dry" of a headphone from what I've read. A "liquid" tube amp may not be required for synergy... possibly still fun though. Did you decide the HD650 was large enough not to bother with a portable? I had also been tempted by the Schiit gear, but mostly for testing or experience purposes.
Edited by Evshrug - 4/23/13 at 9:05pm
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If your not sure the G3 will be a nice difference, I will just hold I that one. I heard the MM combo is nice but it would have to be worth over the e11 but if you have not tried it I can wait, I believe like you, others like it a lot. The IFI audio is not easy to find. Also reliability is also a big issue when reviews bring up issues it could be a deal killer. Like we talk about before the volume doesn't have to go very high, and on the e11 volume seems to be enough.  Thanks ClieOS

 

Reliability? I am not aware that iFi has any build quality. In fact, they have some of the best build quality I have seen on desktop gear. I do agree iFi tends to be harder to find, and sometime price can vary by a lot. That's another thing you need to watch out - where you live also limits what you can buy (sensibly).

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Reliability? I am not aware that iFi has any build quality. In fact, they have some of the best build quality I have seen on desktop gear. I do agree iFi tends to be harder to find, and sometime price can vary by a lot. That's another thing you need to watch out - where you live also limits what you can buy (sensibly).

I meant reliability in general not in particular one company, just saying it's an important consideration.

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i was just looking for such comparison, thanks for the effort and the insights..

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If your not sure the G3 will be a nice difference, I will just hold I that one. I heard the MM combo is nice but it would have to be worth over the e11 but if you have not tried it I can wait, I believe like you, others like it a lot. The IFI audio is not easy to find. Also reliability is also a big issue when reviews bring up issues it could be a deal killer. Like we talk about before the volume doesn't have to go very high, and on the e11 volume seems to be enough.  Thanks ClieOS

 I started to look at your top pick the O2 will that pair well with HD650? I started to order the Little Dot MK1 plus but they said not to pair it with high impedance HP. Also the Jds site said the O2 is good up to 250 Ohms so I just wanted to clear these issues up.Thanks

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 I started to look at your top pick the O2 will that pair well with HD650? I started to order the Little Dot MK1 plus but they said not to pair it with high impedance HP. Also the Jds site said the O2 is good up to 250 Ohms so I just wanted to clear these issues up.Thanks


There is no reason why O2 won't drive HD650. JDS Labs is only stating a general recommendation from NwAvGuy, you have to look into individual cases.

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Yeah, when I still had them, my DT880 600 Ohm could be driven by O2 with little problem. There's no reason why O2 should have problem driving headphones that have the same sensitivity with lower impedance.

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Yeah, when I still had them, my DT880 600 Ohm could be driven by O2 with little problem. There's no reason why O2 should have problem driving headphones that have the same sensitivity with lower impedance.

Ok thats good to know. I was also thinking of the little dot 1 plus but their site said it's not for high impedance HP's there fore my thoughts moved to the O2. Thanks

post #312 of 454
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As general rule of thumb, if an amp is said to be not suitable for high impedance load, most likely it is because it doesn't have enough gain. This means it doesn't output high enough voltage so volume will not be high enough for high impedance headphone that are often low in sensitivity. If an amp is said to be not suitable for low impedance load, it could that it has high output impedance, low current output, or being noisy (hiss)

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As general rule of thumb, if an amp is said to be not suitable for high impedance load, most likely it is because it doesn't have enough gain. This means it doesn't output high enough voltage so volume will not be high enough for high impedance headphone that are often low in sensitivity. If an amp is said to be not suitable for low impedance load, it could that it has high output impedance, low current output, or being noisy (hiss)

Thank you

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Since C421 has been replaced by C5, I was wondering if you had any experience with it, and how it compares with cMoyBB?

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