Mixmaster mikes vs Beats pro vs soul Sl300 vs beats studio vs beats solo hd vs beats mixr - Page 5

some of them might not listen though, as they believe in the endorsement and celebrity claims so much that they push away our statements cause what we say might be VERY different from what they expect, so different its hard to believe

Well it may be "elitist" of me but I think everything is like that. Life is one big marketing case study..

People heavily into audio equipment generally can't fathom why casual consumers blindly throw hundreds of dollars at Monster/Bose. They know too much to hear through the ears of the casual listener.

People heavily into political science generally can't fathom why we elect the politicians we do. They know too much to see through the eyes of the casual voter.

A professional financial analyst probably cringes when his friends yap to him about the awesome Facebook investment they just made. It doesn't matter though, because all of those people who lost thousands of dollars on the Facebook IPO "saw it on TV so it must be good".

In the end, no single person can have a deep knowledge of every subject and penetrate the marketing veil, so the most popular option almost always tends to be a pretty crappy option. We are all guilty of this, just in different areas.

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Originally Posted by obobskivich 

to the new guy's view, they're getting their face bitten off, but to the veteran, they're the millionth person this week to ask the same exact question and expect the same exact answer.

+10.  Things get old, spoiled, and eventually rotten.  And when that happens, the vitriol is a just an outward expression of a visceral gut reaction.  Welcome to Beats threads, sorry about your face.

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Originally Posted by obobskivich 


I agree with what you, and warren, have been back-and-forth on. But I think the reality is, the majority of people who are deriding those products likely haven't heard them - it's popular to rip on the cool kids after all. And all that. I'm not saying that if you sent out the Beats headphones to all of Head-Fi that you'd see unanimous positive response in threads though. The other problem, methinks, is fake headphones tainting the pool - there are A LOT of fake Beats, Bose, etc headphones on the market, and they are very common. IME fake headphones always sound horrible. Again, I'm not trying to excuse anything, just some more insight.
Regarding the legitimate products, they're unpopular for a reason - they cost a whole lot, are not very durable, and have other comparative flaws relative to their competition. In the light of what that money should buy you, it's not hard to see why most people get up in arms about it (because, and I may be off base here, but I'm assuming that most people on Head-Fi are not billionaire playboys, so wasting $300-$500 is not a "oh well" and ensuring that the money is spent well is pretty relevant to most people). I agree that the vitriol and derision directed at people innocently asking questions is somewhat disheartening, but that's part of the problem with a forum-based system - to the new guy's view, they're getting their face bitten off, but to the veteran, they're the millionth person this week to ask the same exact question and expect the same exact answer.

exactly

Just to be fair, I only deride two specific Beats models... and that's only as a result of prior ownership FWIW.

I'm not going to tell what people should buy with their money.  I just think if you like how a headphones look/sound and it fits your needs.  You should get them regardless of brand.  I know I do that.  Let's face it.  A lot of models from our trusted brands are crap for the money they charge.

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Originally Posted by warrenpchi 

Honestly guys, you should really check out Tobu99's post history.  He is not at all interested in a real recommendation.  I'm not even certain he actually cares about buying any of the cans in this poll.  Seems like he's just on a mission to get someone saying that Beats are good.  Seriously, just check out his posting history and decide for yourselves what he's on about.

Maybe its Dr. Dre

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Originally Posted by machoboy 

Maybe its Dr. Dre

Haha, Iovine more likely.

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Originally Posted by HiFiGuy528 

I'm not going to tell what people should buy with their money.  I just think if you like how a headphones look/sound and it fits your needs.  You should get them regardless of brand.  I know I do that.  Let's face it.  A lot of models from our trusted brands are crap for the money they charge.

That is very true ^_^

what if monster or beats created a account on head fi and started reviews and such on there pruducts....oh that would be god ;) They would say beats are high quality professional headphones....ect hahah

Nah, that wouldn't work.  This community is self-policing.

The reviewer's credibility would be called into question.  Epic flames would result from the user trying to explain/defend their positions.  The user would get banned.  And it's very possible that the entire review thread (including the flame posts contained therein) would be deleted thus messing up everyone's post count.  It would be messy and not very productive.  It'd probably be easier for them to just improve the SQ of their cans (which frankly they should be doing anyway).

i wounder if beats or monster has ever read anything about beats on this website, if they took suggestions from her they would be more likes by audiophiles i think