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Thinking of buying The HD650 need a little help

post #1 of 11
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Hey

 

I am thinking of buying a headphone for games and movie

I want to spend around $450 for the headphones, and around 100 for the amp or the sound card

 

I have few question

 

Is the HD650 a good choice for my using, please tell me if there are better choices for my price range ?

Am I over-doing it ?

 

Is noise canceling in the HD650 good ?, I know its not meant to be for noise canceling but I am asking this as a general question

 

 

 

And should I buy an amp or a sound card ?

Please tell me what should I choose and link me to a good one of them

My motherboard btw is asus p8p67 pro so I think I will need one of those

 

ps this is my first professional headphone I buy, all i bought before was the $5 garbage

 

Thanks guys


Edited by BulletProve - 7/29/12 at 8:13pm
post #2 of 11

grab a pro900 for say usd300...

and spend the rest on a dac.

 

hd650 is an open can...everything leaks inwards n outwards.

amping is tricky, and its a loveit or hateit kinda sound, so its best if u find one to listen to first.

post #3 of 11
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Originally Posted by BulletProve View Post

Hey

 

I am thinking of buying a headphone for games and movie

I want to spend around $450 for the headphones, and around 100 for the amp or the sound card

 

I have few question

 

Is the HD650 a good choice for my using, please tell me if there are better choices for my price range ?

Am I over-doing it ?

 

Is noise canceling in the HD650 good ?, I know its not meant to be for noise canceling but I am asking this as a general question

 

 

 

And should I buy an amp or a sound card ?

Please tell me what should I choose and link me to a good one of them

My motherboard btw is asus p8p67 pro so I think I will need one of those

 

 

Thanks guys

 

Welcome to Head-Fi.  I own the HD650, and have used them here and there for games, but 98% of the time, I'm using them for music.  The noise canceling is almost 0 with the HD650s because they are "open" design headphones.  The only way you can isolate sound is by blasting the music loud enough to drown out anything around you, which obviously isn't a smart thing to do, nor ideal.  Yes, the HD650 do need to be used with a headphone amp for them to sound proper.  But if you need some degree of noise canceling, you'll want to look at a closed-back design.  

post #4 of 11
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Originally Posted by jsplice View Post

 

Welcome to Head-Fi.  I own the HD650, and have used them here and there for games, but 98% of the time, I'm using them for music.  The noise canceling is almost 0 with the HD650s because they are "open" design headphones.  The only way you can isolate sound is by blasting the music loud enough to drown out anything around you, which obviously isn't a smart thing to do, nor ideal.  Yes, the HD650 do need to be used with a headphone amp for them to sound proper.  But if you need some degree of noise canceling, you'll want to look at a closed-back design.  

 

Hi mate thanks for the warm welcome !

 

I dont really care that much about the noise canceling, just a general question

I will use em for music for sure but mostly games and movies so what do think ?

 

Please choose me an amp that fits my using :) , I don't have that knowledge in headphones and stuff so I will really need your help at this point

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post

grab a pro900 for say usd300...

and spend the rest on a dac.

 

hd650 is an open can...everything leaks inwards n outwards.

amping is tricky, and its a loveit or hateit kinda sound, so its best if u find one to listen to first.


Hi

 

tbh I didnt like the pro900 look

It looks like a cheap headphone

And what do you mean by dac ?

Hmm well where I live there is no professional places for these stuff

When ask someone about professional headphone, he say beats !

post #5 of 11

If your looking into the HD-650, the sound is going to leak no doubt on this one. The HD-650 also needs somewhat a good amount of power to drive them, your motherboard I don't think will be able to drive these cans. This is where AMP/DAC comes in, in the price range you are giving for there isn't many that can drive the HD-650 to its "FULL POTENTIAL."

Currently, I am using the HD-600 with a sound card (XFI-Soundblaster). It could drive the cans pretty well, but I'm sure with a AMP/DAC combo the SQ would be much better.

Also, don't judge the headphones from their looks. The Pro900 is an amazing can for closed back gaming.

post #6 of 11
I don't think OP realizes this but the headphone is open back meaning others will hear your music, movie, and you will hear them talk. It's far from passive or active noise cancelling.

I think for games and movies and sometimes music on the side, 500-600$ is a waste. Look for bang for buck 200$ headphones and save the rest for ssds or a gtx 670...

300% fps with 70% sound (just explosions and voices)
post #7 of 11
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Originally Posted by sipter View Post

If your looking into the HD-650, the sound is going to leak no doubt on this one. The HD-650 also needs somewhat a good amount of power to drive them, your motherboard I don't think will be able to drive these cans. This is where AMP/DAC comes in, in the price range you are giving for there isn't many that can drive the HD-650 to its "FULL POTENTIAL."

Currently, I am using the HD-600 with a sound card (XFI-Soundblaster). It could drive the cans pretty well, but I'm sure with a AMP/DAC combo the SQ would be much better.

Also, don't judge the headphones from their looks. The Pro900 is an amazing can for closed back gaming.

Hmm I found this one

Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D THX PCIE Fatal1ty Champion Sound Card SB1354

http://www.amazon.com/Creative-Blaster-Fatal1ty-Champion-SB1354/dp/B0060SXDRI/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1343619267&sr=8-9&keywords=XFI-Soundblaster

 

Or

Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi HD USB Audio System with THX SB1240

 

It looks nice and also "The dedicated high quality headphone amp supports studio quality headphones and headsets with up to 600 ohm impedance."

The HD650 is only 300 ohm so its wil drive it will

 

Could you please explane what does "AMP/DAC combo the SQ would be much better." 

DAC I think it mean Dedicated Audio Card right ?

And what do you mean by SQ ?

 

I am sorry guys but I am n00b at this


Edited by BulletProve - 7/29/12 at 8:42pm
post #8 of 11
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Originally Posted by stevenlongs View Post

I don't think OP realizes this but the headphone is open back meaning others will hear your music, movie, and you will hear them talk. It's far from passive or active noise cancelling.
I think for games and movies and sometimes music on the side, 500-600$ is a waste. Look for bang for buck 200$ headphones and save the rest for ssds or a gtx 670...
300% fps with 70% sound (just explosions and voices)

OK I know they are not meant to be for noise canceling its just a general question

I do watch a lot of Blu-Ray discs so I thought that this need a good headphone doesnt it ?

 

I already have a gtx 580 I think I will use it for one more year xD

post #9 of 11
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Originally Posted by BulletProve View Post

Hmm I found this one

Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D THX PCIE Fatal1ty Champion Sound Card SB1354

http://www.amazon.com/Creative-Blaster-Fatal1ty-Champion-SB1354/dp/B0060SXDRI/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1343619267&sr=8-9&keywords=XFI-Soundblaster

 

Or

Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi HD USB Audio System with THX SB1240

 

It looks nice and also "The dedicated high quality headphone amp supports studio quality headphones and headsets with up to 600 ohm impedance."

The HD650 is only 300 ohm so its wil drive it will

 

Could you please explane what does "AMP/DAC combo the SQ would be much better." 

DAC I think it mean Dedicated Audio Card right ?

And what do you mean by SQ ?

 

I am sorry guys but I am n00b at this


An AMP/DAC combo is a/or multiple product that has a  "Digital to analog converter" (Which could be found in your motherboard, if I'm not wrong) and a Amplifier connected to each other. The reason why you should buy these are because the p8p67 (correct me if I'm wrong) has a cheap amp/dac inside it. SQ meaning sound quality. And also, sorry but I couldn't help decide which amp/dac suits you best. Since I'm quite new to these stuff also.

post #10 of 11

IF you can't feed hd650 with a good source (amp/ac combo) you get a dull voice which won't satisfy you,

 

i am using both pro900 and hd 650 for music and watching movies, one word: pro900 is better for movies.

Its more exciting can to hear bass impacts and effects which will excite you also. Pro900 is more neutral

according to pro900 which is better for listening to music ok but for films, usually i pick pro900 and 

its soundstage is fine according to a closed can, maybe you can choose Denon D5000 which is also

superior to pro900 (for to compensate cheap look). But when you listen to hd 650 without a good source

sounds may sound terrific with an unpleasing result, pro 900 or some other cans are not sensitive to

driving, i think hd 650 or cans like these must be the choices in the future ;)

post #11 of 11
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OK guys can you give a name of a good AMP/DAC Combo ?

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