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post #2131 of 3708
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Not a very fair comparison, but my Matrix M Stage sounds clearer, fuller and more detailed than my E12.
Not very fair because the Matrix costs twice as much and is also a desktop amp.

 

Agreed, I actually like it because I like my music to be more in my face when on the go rather than the open sound I get from the M-Stage (which can't fit in my pocket, anyway tongue_smile.gif)

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I have a question about the E12 with sensitive iem. Typically with amps and iem is that they get too loud too quickly unless it has digital volume control. I was wondering how the E12 does with that. I had the E11 and I think it did ok with volume control so hopefully this is just as good or better.

post #2133 of 3708
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Originally Posted by rawrster View Post

I have a question about the E12 with sensitive iem. Typically with amps and iem is that they get too loud too quickly unless it has digital volume control. I was wondering how the E12 does with that. I had the E11 and I think it did ok with volume control so hopefully this is just as good or better.

 

I use my Westone 4 with the E12 and have no volume control issues on low gain, whatsoever...

post #2134 of 3708
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Originally Posted by rawrster View Post

I have a question about the E12 with sensitive iem. Typically with amps and iem is that they get too loud too quickly unless it has digital volume control. I was wondering how the E12 does with that. I had the E11 and I think it did ok with volume control so hopefully this is just as good or better.


With sensitive IEMs I usually get to play in the 7AM-10AM region, which is large enough to set the exact volume I want.

post #2135 of 3708
Thanks for the replies. That is what I assumed but wanted to make sure as not all amps do that even if it has adjustable gain. I'll have to see if anything shows up and if not I can always drop by b&h and buy it there.
post #2136 of 3708
Thread Starter 

thanks for everyone who help people have question about Mont Blanc, anyway, please email to support@fiio.net cause it is hard to us to take care all the thread about FiiO. and it is quite difficult to us to find more staffs who have good skill in English and techincal .

 

 

In one tread, someone discuss that iBxxx should have someone just like me who response to head-fi'ers , but some suggest it will be best to let them focus on the development but not marketing. what I can explained is that we have about 200 staffs, include about 120 workers and others are engineer and salesman, marketing guys and something etc.  but it take time to train our staff so someone can help me in the future. 

 

Anyway, I enjoy the communication with you guys . 

post #2137 of 3708
James! Any device in the near future that is the equivalent of the E12 with a built in dac?
post #2138 of 3708
James!
We enjoy communicating with you too! Although, I also understand that it can be hard to keep up with "social media" like these Head-Fi forums. Hope your company is thriving!
post #2139 of 3708

I dont think the volume transition could be any better. It is very smooth but stiff to ensure that you dont blow you ears or drives. 

I have had mine for some time now and it seems that the volume knob has loosened in spots, its fairly wierd like it has the same

stiffness but it slips in spots after use for a while . I dont think that it is gonna come apart or anything but it should be better than it is 

 for the price. Other than that iam very pleased with the amp as far as the amount of power . I dont see the reason for having a gain 

adjustment being such a clean amp ...... DISTORTION KILLS !!! not power but for maybe ied's i could see maybe wanting a lower gain 

output. If you are looking for a powerful amp that has the best build design and some of the best reviews you cant beat this little guy 

just buy it you wont be disapointed!!!!!deadhorse.gif

post #2140 of 3708

So I just received the E12 in the mail today with the L3 line-out cable for iPods. I'm using an iPod classic with Rockbox firmware and using FLAC files. I'm using Shure SE530 IEMs.

 

So my first impressions so far:

 

Is it strange if I'm not really noticing a big difference between using the iPod directly and using it amped with the E12? And actually some songs sound better in my ears straight from the iPod, vs. the E12. It's like the iPod has every so slightly more detail. I'm not using the bass boost on the E12 as I don't like what it does with the sound, and it's on 0 dB gain, as that's loud enough for the SE530.

 

Anyway, will keep listening in the coming weeks. Hard to tell right away if there's a big difference. But the first impression is that there definitely isn't a big difference, I didn't have a 'holy crap' reaction, if you know what I mean :) Thankfully the dealer I got it from has a 365 day return policy, so I can take my time to test this thing out.

post #2141 of 3708
Same here. I think it also shows how good the Ipod Classic still is. But I get the feeling that the E12 gets better over time. Have mine for a week now.
post #2142 of 3708
People buy amps expecting big differences from an unamoed source. This is not what amos are for. They are there to provide a headphone clean, sufficient power. There are some headphones that need an extra push at certain frequency ranges, where it may not hit as hard or sound as clean. Its not some magical overall boost in quality, unless you have a really crappy onboard amp.
post #2143 of 3708
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People buy amps expecting big differences from an unamoed source. This is not what amos are for. They are there to provide a headphone clean, sufficient power. There are some headphones that need an extra push at certain frequency ranges, where it may not hit as hard or sound as clean. Its not some magical overall boost in quality, unless you have a really crappy onboard amp.

 

Yeah, these SE530s of mine are already pretty efficient. I've never had to turn up the volume very far for the sound to get loud. Perhaps an amp only really becomes beneficial when you have harder to drive headphones, such as over-ear type models. Don't have any plans of getting that type of headphone anytime soon, as they're too big for commuting and stuff. I'll keep giving it a try, but I guess I had setup my expectations to be a bit different.

post #2144 of 3708
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Originally Posted by starfly View Post

So I just received the E12 in the mail today with the L3 line-out cable for iPods. I'm using an iPod classic with Rockbox firmware and using FLAC files. I'm using Shure SE530 IEMs.

 

So my first impressions so far:

 

Is it strange if I'm not really noticing a big difference between using the iPod directly and using it amped with the E12? And actually some songs sound better in my ears straight from the iPod, vs. the E12. It's like the iPod has every so slightly more detail. I'm not using the bass boost on the E12 as I don't like what it does with the sound, and it's on 0 dB gain, as that's loud enough for the SE530.

 

Anyway, will keep listening in the coming weeks. Hard to tell right away if there's a big difference. But the first impression is that there definitely isn't a big difference, I didn't have a 'holy crap' reaction, if you know what I mean :) Thankfully the dealer I got it from has a 365 day return policy, so I can take my time to test this thing out.

 

Make sure you are using an LOD out cable to get the best sound through the E12.

post #2145 of 3708
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Originally Posted by Change is Good View Post

 

Make sure you are using an LOD out cable to get the best sound through the E12.

I am :) Am using the L3 LOD cable. I also notice on low volume the E12 generates a lot of 'hiss', whereas the iPod itself is quite clean at low volume. So far I'm not really sold on this amp.

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