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post #2116 of 3695
IMO makes pocketing the deal a lot easier. No cables sticking out at weird angles.
I don't think Il'd like my E12 and iPhone sitting on the dock connector and cables at the bottom of my pocket. I don't see any other way for portable devices to be arranged for in-pocket use.
Edited by Evshrug - 8/6/13 at 1:01pm
post #2117 of 3695

Having the ports on one side of the device isn't a problem with portable amplifiers. It's the fact that they're reversed on the E12 and it totally kills the user experience for me, especially considering how difficult it is to adjust the volume precisely with the potentiometer.

post #2118 of 3695

If I had a 3.5mm to lightening LOD would i be able to use the E12 with the iPhone 5? or would i need a DAC as well as the lightening is digital only?  how would it work if i had a lightening to 30pin converter, surely that would also be digital only?

post #2119 of 3695
The lightning to 30 pin adapter has a built-in DAC. Not sure if it's as good as what's in the iPhone.

I'm looking at the NuForce iDo, or HRT iStreamer.
post #2120 of 3695

Most people who tested the new lightning adapters including CLIEOS said that the DAC inside the adapter was bad and thus made using that and then an amp useless.

 

Only options now are to double amp or drop a few hundred for DAC bypassing devices

post #2121 of 3695
Yeah, external DACs that pull the digital signal, like the two I just mentioned in my last post ^_^
post #2122 of 3695
I have a Wadia iPod/iPhone dock with digital out.
It works great, I'm a big believer.
Too bad it costs so damn much!redface.gif
post #2123 of 3695
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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post

I have a Wadia iPod/iPhone dock with digital out.
It works great, I'm a big believer.
Too bad it costs so damn much!redface.gif

 

it's massive, what's in it?  what does it do?

post #2124 of 3695
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Originally Posted by frustin View Post

it's massive, what's in it?  what does it do?

Don't laugh!

It takes the digtal signal from your iPhone or iPod and converts it into an SPDIF signal which it outputs thru an RCA coaxial Jack.
It also outputs video via an S-Video jack, which I've never used. Apparently there are some compatibilty issues.

It also outputs the analog signal from the iPod or iPhone out of a pair of RCA analog jacks, I don't see the point of this feature, BTW....rolleyes.gif the "analog out" feature is useless. The digital out sounds FAR SUPERIOR thru a good DAC.

You're laughing now, aren't you........tongue.gif

Did I mention that it comes with a wee little remote control and a power supply?

I really do enjoy using it, but you are correct, it is fairly large for what it does.
When I bought it, Wadia was the only company selling a digital out iPod dock.

And expensive, you still have to buy a DAC.
post #2125 of 3695

Got my E12 yesterday. It sounds good out of the box. But after 12 hours of burn in on my head and off my head overnight it sounds not so good anymore. Kinda harsh and undetailed. I hope the good first impression comes back after let's say another 20 hours of playback time. So right now my Meier Stepdance is superior by a large margin.

post #2126 of 3695
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Originally Posted by pietcux View Post

Got my E12 yesterday. It sounds good out of the box. But after 12 hours of burn in on my head and off my head overnight it sounds not so good anymore. Kinda harsh and undetailed. I hope the good first impression comes back after let's say another 20 hours of playback time. So right now my Meier Stepdance is superior by a large margin.

 

Which DAC and headphones did you use?

And make sure you didn't turn up the bass boost by mistake, it muddies up the sound.

post #2127 of 3695
My E12 sounds pretty bright and not very detailed relative to the O2 and C5 I have.
post #2128 of 3695
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Originally Posted by BenF View Post

 

Which DAC and headphones did you use?

And make sure you didn't turn up the bass boost by mistake, it muddies up the sound.

I run it straight from the LOD of my Ipod Cassic 120 GB. It is the latest Classic revision. And I do not use the bass boost or the crossfeed. It is set to 0db gain. The headphone used is the Ultrasone Signature Pro.

post #2129 of 3695
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

My E12 sounds pretty bright and not very detailed relative to the O2 and C5 I have.

Same here compared to the Meier Audio Stepdance. Even on 0db gain, I can hardly turn the volume dial to more than 11:00 am. The Signature Pro have 32 Ohm. It is hard to adjust the correct volume. 

Seems that they gave up detil for the world record of we can drive every dynamic and orthodynamic can out there.

But I still hope it gets better because I like the design and the size is very convenient.


Edited by pietcux - 8/11/13 at 10:51pm
post #2130 of 3695
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

My E12 sounds pretty bright and not very detailed relative to the O2 and C5 I have.

Not a very fair comparison, but my Matrix M Stage sounds clearer, fuller and more detailed than my E12.
Not very fair because the Matrix costs twice as much and is also a desktop amp.
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