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post #1936 of 3708
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I've bought from them within the past year;

they were very professional and shipped quickly.

post #1937 of 3708

I just received my e12 from Sonic Electronix yesterday. Entire process was easy and they shipped quickly.

 

Dont have time to give an in-depth review right now but let me say that paired with my V-moda M-100 the e12 sounds awesome ! I love it !

post #1938 of 3708
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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post

Well, not really.
Short answer is:

Higher Gain (16 dB) does not necessarily mean more power.
Power draw really has more to do with headphone efficiency and how loud you are listening.

If you have low efficiency 'phones and listen really loud, then battery does not alst too long between charges.

If you have high efficiency 'phones and listen really quiet then you don't need to charge as often.

Headphone efficiency is how much power your 'phones draw, not how high you have to set the gain or the volume.
Thanks for that explanation, I'm glad to hear that. As I was having to turn the volume all the way up just to hear it, i've turned the gain on again.
The HTC One can power the DT770-80 OK by itself but it sounds significantly better with the amp plugged in. It's nice to know that if my amp goes flat, I have the phone' s inbuilt amp as a backup, it's just not as good as this one.

I had thought about the E17, but having it plugged into the USB of the phone must drain your phone battery, and the One has a non removable battery.
post #1939 of 3708
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Originally Posted by jjcoolaus View Post


Thanks for that explanation, I'm glad to hear that. As I was having to turn the volume all the way up just to hear it, i've turned the gain on again.
The HTC One can power the DT770-80 OK by itself but it sounds significantly better with the amp plugged in. It's nice to know that if my amp goes flat, I have the phone' s inbuilt amp as a backup, it's just not as good as this one.

I had thought about the E17, but having it plugged into the USB of the phone must drain your phone battery, and the One has a non removable battery.


You can turn off USB charging on E17, preventing the battery drain on the One.

post #1940 of 3708
It's my first post and also I just bought this amp and E11 (also bought at the same time, just because many said that it's more about bass compared to E12), but both doing a great job! It can improve my old old Altec Lansing UHP512 headphone for better sound. I use my E11 for more beat and bass and the E12 for more calm musics.
I can't explain about these amps because I'm new to this audiophile equipment but in general it makes clearer and 'wow' sound IMHO. I'm very happy with them;D

And I'm confused about the E12 V1 and V2, how do I know the differences from physical view? I have my E12 signed with '16' on the gain switch not '10', does this indicate V2?

I'm also looking for in ear earphone that will use it with the amps, my choices are Shure SE215 or Klipsch S4. Looking for a good bass and good mid vocal.

Thanks
deephis
post #1941 of 3708
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Originally Posted by deephis View Post

It's my first post and also I just bought this amp and E11 (also bought at the same time, just because many said that it's more about bass compared to E12), but both doing a great job! It can improve my old old Altec Lansing UHP512 headphone for better sound. I use my E11 for more beat and bass and the E12 for more calm musics.
I can't explain about these amps because I'm new to this audiophile equipment but in general it makes clearer and 'wow' sound IMHO. I'm very happy with them;D

And I'm confused about the E12 V1 and V2, how do I know the differences from physical view? I have my E12 signed with '16' on the gain switch not '10', does this indicate V2?

I'm also looking for in ear earphone that will use it with the amps, my choices are Shure SE215 or Klipsch S4. Looking for a good bass and good mid vocal.

Thanks
deephis

Physically it is not possible

 

but if it says 16dB, then it is V2. Some 10dB's are also V1 though

post #1942 of 3708
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

Physically it is not possible

but if it says 16dB, then it is V2. Some 10dB's are also V1 though
I see, that's great if I have the V2, because I like more bass.
I also have contacted Fiio for my E12, they actually asking for the code to determine the version.
post #1943 of 3708
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Originally Posted by deephis View Post


I see, that's great if I have the V2, because I like more bass.
I also have contacted Fiio for my E12, they actually asking for the code to determine the version.

"Welcome to Head-Fi! Sorry abour your wallet"

 

The system for determining it for people like us is very general. We could be wrong of course.

 

Weird that your post count hasn't increased even though this is now your second post. Anyway, welcome.

post #1944 of 3708
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

"Welcome to Head-Fi! Sorry abour your wallet"

The system for determining it for people like us is very general. We could be wrong of course.

Weird that your post count hasn't increased even though this is now your second post. Anyway, welcome.
Just got a reply from Fiio, my E12 is second version. That have 16dB sign on Gain and new battery socket to ease users replace the battery, that's what they say.
I think many forums out there also like this, you must post several times. After it reach, the post is starting to count AFAIK.
Edited by deephis - 5/17/13 at 7:13pm
post #1945 of 3708
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Originally Posted by deephis View Post


Just got a reply from Fiio, my E12 is second version. That have 16dB sign on Gain and new battery socket to ease users replace the battery, that's what they say.

That's what I guessed.

 

They changed from V1 to V2 before they changed 10dB gain to 16dB gain

 

Revisions if I remember correctly are like this

  1. First batch with 10dB boost, more fixed battery, big device strap, V1 bass
  2. Added in standard device strap
  3. V2 bass boost as new default
  4. added 16dB gain option with new easier to replace battery

 

Is what I believe the order of revisions were.

post #1946 of 3708
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

That's what I guessed.

They changed from V1 to V2 before they changed 10dB gain to 16dB gain

Revisions if I remember correctly are like this
  1. First batch with 10dB boost, more fixed battery, big device strap, V1 bass
  2. Added in standard device strap
  3. V2 bass boost as new default
  4. added 16dB gain option with new easier to replace battery

Is what I believe the order of revisions were.
Thanks for the enlightenment.
Does it to replace the battery, I have to unscrew the two bolts on the back?
post #1947 of 3708
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Originally Posted by deephis View Post


Thanks for the enlightenment.
Does it to replace the battery, I have to unscrew the two bolts on the back?

I don't have the updated version

 

but I would assume yes. Unscrewing the corner bolts to get to the battery.

 

Don't worry about it for now. You have another few years before you do rolleyes.gif

post #1948 of 3708
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

I don't have the updated version

but I would assume yes. Unscrewing the corner bolts to get to the battery.

Don't worry about it for now. You have another few years before you do rolleyes.gif
Indeed, hehe... Just want to know how:D
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Does the E12 have enough power to drive a HD650 to its maximum potential?

 

Also, what about the wireless interference issue that some has been experiencing? Because if the E12 is going to be paired with a smartphone, then obviously... there's going to be interference. So, what's the take on this actually?


Edited by benbenkr - 5/20/13 at 12:05pm
post #1950 of 3708
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Originally Posted by benbenkr View Post

Does the E12 have enough power to drive a HD650 to its maximum potential?

 

Also, what about the wireless interference issue that some has been experiencing? Because if the E12 is going to be paired with a smartphone, then obviously... there's going to be interference. So, what's the take on this actually?


I have called from one cellphone to another (both less than 50sm away from E12) - no audible effect.

The EMI issue might have been limited to E12 V1.

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