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post #1291 of 3263

I'm not even in the market for a portable amp, but I'm still interested in this.  Wonder how it compares to the Headstage Arrow 4G

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Originally Posted by Bill-P View Post

I think you missed it, but then people were discussing a lot of things the last few pages, so that's unavoidable.

 

And I did try the comparison between E12 and C&C BH directly out of my MacBook. The result was worse for BH because the MacBook's output has more treble than D3's, and C&C BH was just adding even more to the flares. So D3 was the handicap I would like to give to BH.

 

I see, thanks for the comparisons, I'm sure many were looking for them.
 
I'll have an O2 and ANDES comparison later these 2 weeks. I did a temp exchange with a friend for his E11, L11, and GR07 and so he got to try out the ANDES too. He loves it.
post #1293 of 3263

miccastore seems to only ship to US, no option for CANADA in the country list, is the E12 just restricted to US so far?

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If you got to FiiO's website, you can check what the official Canadian distro's are.

 

I just checked for you, no authorized Canadian seller carries it at the moment.

 

your only option

 

MP4Nation

 

 

 

Find a U.S carrier that has it and ask for Canadian Shipping. Maybe PM/call up Micca and ask them about it. Tuesday that is in case they aren't in Monday, but if they are, you can try Monday.

 

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I was quite surprised that M4nation didn't have it. I was kinda sure James said they shipped some orders to MP4Nation as well? Maybe I heard it wrong and they were never sent anyway or they sold out?

 

Edit:

Just searched this thread for mp4 and mp4nation. It seems James probably never said anything about shipment of E12 to them? Weird. Being in the U.S made me think it was easy to buy but I guess that's not the case.

 

If you really want it,  you can get friend in U.S to buy it(Free micca store shipping) and then send it up to you for another $7 to $10.


Edited by bowei006 - 2/17/13 at 8:24pm
post #1295 of 3263

I was drawn in with the free shipping, I thought maybe this product would be small enough to bypass customs but yea I checked the regular shop where I buy my fiio stuff from, they don't have any listed in their website yet, I'll give them an e-mail and see if they plan to get them here

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BTW, the LME49600 can change to another working mode which will consume even more power but the sound will be even better, but the battery life will drop to less than 10 hours. there are not secret in the analog electronics technical , the true is that usually better sound quality need more power

 

The quiescent current goes up by like 50% in high bandwidth mode, but would it be possible to mod the e12 to do this? all it takes is to either lift one of the pads or to solder a resistor across two of the pads of the LME49600

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The quiescent current goes up by like 50% in high bandwidth mode, but would it be possible to mod the e12 to do this? all it takes is to either lift one of the pads or to solder a resistor across two of the pads of the LME49600

 

Yes, it is quite easy if you known how to solder SMD components.

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Anyone know how an iBasso P4 Warbler amp compares to the Fiio E12?

 

I own the P4, but also admire the reports of the fine fit and finish of the Fiio E12.

 

 

The P4 is on a completely different level of performance! Basically, you can make it sound like you want, due to it's full opamp costumization. So, comparing it to the E12 isn't really fair. The E12 is a great amp for the price, but it can reach the P4's performance level. I have my P4 with a custom opamp configuration to my liking and it's just awesome. But I have an E12 too and I use both, as it's a "fun" sounding amp... As for the size comparision, I use my portable amps with an iPod Classic through a LOD cable. The P4 is a bit short and bulky to use with the Classic and the E12 is a bit too lengthy (although it's width and height are perfect for the Classic)...

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miccastore seems to only ship to US, no option for CANADA in the country list, is the E12 just restricted to US so far?

The Headfone Shop in Toronto should be stocking them sooner or later.
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Originally Posted by KamijoIsMyHero View Post

miccastore seems to only ship to US, no option for CANADA in the country list, is the E12 just restricted to US so far?

The Headfone Shop in Toronto should be stocking them sooner or later.

that's exciting, but they'll have the revised bass boost right?
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Perfect timing! I just had my O2 comparison added to the bottom of 1st post, please check:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/649174/review-fiio-e12-vs-c-c-bh

 

I think O2 is still overall the better amp by majority vote.

 

 

Yeah, I can't wait to read about that!

 

 

You know, I may be interested. I'm just about done reviewing my E12, and I'd love to get the C421 again, since my G.A.S. (Gear Acquisition Syndrome) is acting up again after the meet.

 

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How JDS O2  and C421 compares with FiiO E12?

 

Nice review.

 

Since JDS has replaced C421 with the better C5 and claims that it matches the O2 performance, why not compare C5 with E12 instead? Both are newly launched and in pre-order stage. I am sitting on the fence on which to buy. Waiting for more reviews between the two.

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Oh, very cool.  And now you hit the nail right on the head.  I don't know how to best express this to you so that you know my legitimate interest in Electronics Theory & Electronics in general, if it even matters for the point here, but basically apart from that, I'm actually fully involved in a different path, and the time spent on finding, transferring to, and finishing a degree in Electrical Engineering at just the right school, taking precedence over my involvement in audio, just isn't the right thing for me to do currently.  I am actually the author of that PDF (I'd love to add more of the Electrical Engineering side of things with revisions that would then very likely need to take place), and I'm really looking for a way to learn.  It really plays hand-in-hand with what I do, and I'd like to be able to be as much an engineer in what I do as anything else.  It's largely the foundation of how I think anyway.  

 

All that being said, the implication throughout this I guess would be that in addition to the main focus of my career, I'm looking for my involvement in electronics to be a serious avocation of mine to work along side everything else.  The main purpose for my learning, knowledge, and ability in electronics would be to have the skill set to properly understand any schematic, the workings of mostly any piece of gear/component, and be able to modify things to my whim, as it all pertains to audio.  The reason I didn't just fully go into the electronics field entirely is because when it comes to actual work, I'm just not entirely as interested in designing components for the rest of my life (although I do have interest) as I am interested in understanding them and interacting with their potential mechanics.  Then there is obviously the creative side of things which needs to follow for me as that is what's my greatest passion (music).  I'm willing to put in whatever the cost/amount of time that it takes to learn, but it just has to be based on my own clock (at least at the present time).  Just to give you maybe slightly more of an idea of my interests/abilities on that front, I also build custom computers and have never run into any problem that I couldn't troubleshoot (and I've seen some crazy and very abnormal things), most cases in which others were clueless.  I feel that's because while others relied on what they were told, I relied on my actual understanding of the components and what there is to them (despite electrically not fully knowing what's going on, as was always my weakness I'd say).  I know the very basics and don't have the leisure to waste my time poking at random sources only to gain 10% (as it is of relevance to my needs) of the often little that they have to offer in the first place.  There is a very well known problem of Engineers often not being the best of writers and/or teachers XD.  

 

So, if we could bring this to PM, might you help me?  Would you maybe have any suggestions?  You know, like whatever possibly has come to mind whilst reading this, lol.  I would REALLY appreciate any input, and thanks either way!  Sincerely.

 

 

PS- I left the document nameless (with that being said, I obviously don't mind it being linked to me) because even though I'm proud of most of the information and perspective I was able to provide (and I really try to avoid stating things I am not at least 90% confident in, which usually comes after much contemplation and deliberation), I don't like putting anything out there until I also feel that whatever it is also represents at least 90% of the substance that the material could possibly have to offer and/or imply.  In other words, what I put out needs to cover at least 90% of the vision I have for it, or in essence, represent an idea to its greatest potential.  This isn't because I'm afraid or obsessed, but more because it otherwise is just pointless and/or useless in its existence IMO (not so much the case here, but certainly so when it comes to my ability to compose, perform, and produce a song for instance).  It's the equivalent of a band releasing their work before they even know or have built their art to the point which fulfills a possible vision, that is, if and when there even is one.  And as a side note, when I say pointless, I mean pointless as it pertains to having a positive effect.  That is to say that as an example, pandering to the greatest common denominator as it presently stands with whatever you plan to put out, there'd be a point in, but it would be of nothing that I'd ever want to have anything to do with (for reasons which are too tangential unfortunately, but philosophically crucially important in my view).  

 

Hey,

Ummmm, I hope I wasn't too harsh? redface.gif

I just assumed it was something you found on the 'Net!

Anyway, no problem, I wouldn't mind offering up a few suggestions.

Sorry for the delay in replying, I was out doing a few things, visiting family, etc.

I'll send you a PM!

Cheers,

CJ

post #1303 of 3263
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that's exciting, but they'll have the revised bass boost right?

 

I have no idea!

But it's a good question!

I assume it may take a while for FiiO to put the "new, unimproved" version into production anyway, so, you never know, they may get the "original, classic" version into stock.

I was going to fire an e-mail off to them to see when they expected some stock, get myself at the front of the line, maybe?

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Originally Posted by Will-8 View Post

 

 

Nice review.

 

Since JDS has replaced C421 with the better C5 and claims that it matches the O2 performance, why not compare C5 with E12 instead? Both are newly launched and in pre-order stage. I am sitting on the fence on which to buy. Waiting for more reviews between the two.


C5 hasn't come out yet, and is only in the process of pre-order. The E12, is already out. The comparison will be very interesting though.

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Originally Posted by Will-8 View Post

 

Nice review.

 

Since JDS has replaced C421 with the better C5 and claims that it matches the O2 performance, why not compare C5 with E12 instead? Both are newly launched and in pre-order stage. I am sitting on the fence on which to buy. Waiting for more reviews between the two.

 

Yeah, as mentioned, C5 is still in pre-order, and I have no idea when I'd receive mine, so the comparison would have to be made way later.

 

Meanwhile, I have the opportunity to review C421 within the week, so... I think I'll do that first, and then maybe trade the C421 later on for a C5 to review.

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