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post #901 of 3026

Quick question for everyone:

 

I recently purchased a pair of Yamaha EPH-100 to use w/ my rMBP. Would the E12 be one of the better choices for a USB3 powered amp? USB3 powered is a requirement for whichever amp I purchase.

post #902 of 3026
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Originally Posted by Xcellere View Post

Quick question for everyone:

 

I recently purchased a pair of Yamaha EPH-100 to use w/ my rMBP. Would the E12 be one of the better choices for a USB3 powered amp? USB3 powered is a requirement for whichever amp I purchase.

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USB 3.0 is speed improvements mainly. Audio IS NOT big in data. The 50MB/s that USB 2.0 can easily do is MORE than enough. Asynch USB is present on both USB 2.0 and 3.0

 

USB 3.0 does not give it more power or anything.

 

If you want an amp with USB 3.0 features that don't do anything. I would recommend you alert Monster that a new market is open for them.

 

Sorry for the irony or sarcastic tone. But requiring USB 3.0 was just a bit funny. 


Edited by bowei006 - 1/30/13 at 11:36am
post #903 of 3026
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

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USB 3.0 is speed improvements mainly. Audio IS NOT big in data. The 50MB/s that USB 2.0 can easily do is MORE than enough. Asynch USB is present on both USB 2.0 and 3.0

 

USB 3.0 does not give it more power or anything.

 

If you want an amp with USB 3.0 features that don't do anything. I would recommend you alert Monster that a new market is open for them.

 

Sorry for the irony or sarcastic tone. But requiring USB 3.0 was just a bit funny. 

Actually I think that USB 3.0 does give more current than the 2.0

post #904 of 3026
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Originally Posted by sinquito View Post

Actually I think that USB 3.0 does give more current than the 2.0

 

 

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The USB 1.x and 2.0 specifications provide a 5 V supply on a single wire from which connected USB devices may draw power. The specification provides for no more than 5.25 V and no less than 4.75 V (5 V±5%) between the positive and negative bus power lines. For USB 3.0, the voltage supplied by low-powered hub ports is 4.45–5.25 V.[46]

A unit load is defined as 100 mA in USB 2.0, and 150 mA in USB 3.0. A device may draw a maximum of 5 unit loads (500 mA) from a port in USB 2.0; 6 (900 mA) in USB 3.0.

The majority of devices will have the same approx 5V output.

 

USB 3.0 does support 900mA capability while USB 2.0 and 1.0/1.1 is capped at 500mA

 

I was meaning that having USB 3.0 does not give the amp more power (200mW output with USB 2.0 and 300mW with USB 3.0 for example).

 

A slower power draw is better for battery life as well. 

 

But again, we get back to the point that most computers will probably use the regular spec USB 3.0 to conserve battery life.

post #905 of 3026
My gigabyte motherboard offers wall-outlet level USB power for charging devices, same as the adapter that came with my iPad for charging from a wall outlet. I imagine a few desktops offer this "full power" USB spec (probably at the spec Boweii listed above), but laptops and normal USB ports usually supply less. The E12 supports both charging speeds.
post #906 of 3026

So I just ordered my E12 from the micca store last night, which I am very excited about.  But I must warn everyone, DO NOT use your good email addresses when you order from them. I did, and after 5 years of spam free operation I got my first piece of spam this morning. It could be pure coincidence, but I highly doubt it. 5 years no spam, then I order from micca and all of a sudden I get spam. Just a heads up. 

post #907 of 3026
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So I just ordered my E12 from the micca store last night, which I am very excited about.  But I must warn everyone, DO NOT use your good email addresses when you order from them. I did, and after 5 years of spam free operation I got my first piece of spam this morning. It could be pure coincidence, but I highly doubt it. 5 years no spam, then I order from micca and all of a sudden I get spam. Just a heads up. 

I also have multiple email accounts. It seems a logical necessity given what wonders and horrors the interwebs offers....
post #908 of 3026
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Originally Posted by UnityIsPower View Post


I also have multiple email accounts. It seems a logical necessity given what wonders and horrors the interwebs offers....

Yep. I still have a couple that are completely spam free but I only use them for work and gmail syncing. The one that got hit is my primary account that I use for trusted website logins. Chrome auto-filled it in and I forgot to change it to a different one. Hopefully there won't be a deluge of spam to that account now. 

post #909 of 3026

I'm very very excited to hear about the comparisons of the E12 and the C&C BH!

post #910 of 3026

I'll write up a review after I spend some more time with my e12 (just arrived an hour ago).  But, DAMN, the felt bag that came with it smells like abused motor oil..

 

They should have laundered the bags.  I'm going to go stick it in the garage with a few fabric softner sheets overnight and see if that helps.

post #911 of 3026
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Originally Posted by AppleDappleman View Post

I'm very very excited to hear about the comparisons of the E12 and the C&C BH!

 

I just got my E12. Let me have a few hours with them first, and then I'll do the comparison with BH. I'll probably post a new thread for that, though.

post #912 of 3026
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Originally Posted by Bill-P View Post

 

I just got my E12. Let me have a few hours with them first, and then I'll do the comparison with BH. I'll probably post a new thread for that, though.

I'm excited! If you have the time, throw me a PM to the link because its confusing checking every thread of things i'm interested in haha

post #913 of 3026

I want to hear from someone who has an E-11 and can compare the E-12 to it objectively....................

 

And specifically how the E-11 bass boost compares.

 

Please resist the urge to LICIBI.  (love it cause I bought it).

 

:-)

post #914 of 3026
I have Sennheiser HD 598 and its frequency range 12hz - 38.5Khz
I need only AMP, because I have Sound Blaster Audigy in my PC and it is let's say enough for listen with my Senn through PC.
But also I have iphone, actually I'm meloman and sound quality is the scope in listening. In addition, I want portable use of my Headphone, relax on sofa and listen and so on smily_headphones1.gif.

So actually I think my choise should be between FiiO E11 and E12.
E11's frequency responce is 10hz-100Khz.
E12's frequency responce seems to be 20hz-20Khz when my HD 598 has 12hz - 38.5Khz.

So will not I hear as little details as I do right now through my Sound Blaster Audigy 24 Bit / 96 Khz (PC)?
I don't want to reduce opportunities of My HD 598 at all.
Or, maybe the frequency range is not a statical thing and its ranges may change depending on something?
I can't believe that E12 will have worse frequency response than E11.
Or, maybe ranges of frequency response are not as important parameters as, for example, the model of AMP chip?
I wanted to wait to E12 release and buy it, but after i saw its Frequency response, I'm a bit dissapointed.
Can you give me recommendations? Thanks in advance smily_headphones1.gif
Edited by dante2505 - 2/2/13 at 4:48am
post #915 of 3026
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Originally Posted by dante2505 View Post

I have Sennheiser HD 598 and its frequency range 12hz - 38.5Khz
I need only AMP, because I have Sound Blaster Audigy in my PC and it is let's say enough for listen with my Senn through PC.
But also I have iphone, actually I'm meloman and sound quality is the scope in listening. In addition, I want portable use of my Headphone, relax on sofa and listen and so on smily_headphones1.gif.

So actually I think my choise should be between FiiO E11 and E12.
E11's frequency responce is 10hz-100Khz.
E12's frequency responce seems to be 20hz-20Khz when my HD 598 has 12hz - 38.5Khz.

So will not I hear as little details as I do right now through my Sound Blaster Audigy 24 Bit / 96 Khz (PC)?
I don't want to reduce opportunities of My HD 598 at all.
Or, maybe the frequency range is not a statical thing and its ranges may change depending on something?
I can't believe that E12 will have worse frequency response than E11.
Or, maybe ranges of frequency response are not as important parameters as, for example, the model of AMP chip?
I wanted to wait to E12 release and buy it, but after i saw its Frequency response, I'm a bit dissapointed.
Can you give me recommendations? Thanks in advance smily_headphones1.gif


I'm not sure about the 100K Khz, but the human ear can't perceive anywhere near that.  The generic frequency response range for most products is 20 - 20K Khz because that is the max range of human hearing.  I have hears some of the crappiest earbuds that claim that response, so I would not factor in the response unless it is more than nominally above 20 or below 20K.  It tells a very small part of the sound story and IMO is something I take with a grain of salt.


Edited by Craigster75 - 2/2/13 at 6:05am
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