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post #91 of 3104
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Originally Posted by Parall3l View Post


When I receive my E12 I'll personally do this with some cheap headphones from the $1 bin. I doubt anyone would think that $1 IEMs that is only capable of taking 20mw max is the same as a CIEM or something.

Let's hope the E12 will make dreams come true and will like the E11 redefine teh budget market once again...but now in the mid fi market! 

post #92 of 3104

might i ask, what headphones are you using for your r&d? i heard that fiio used hd650s for the e9 testing, but i dont know if it is entirely true.

post #93 of 3104
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Originally Posted by feiao View Post

 

 

Everest is for our E19, the flagship of our portable DAC/AMP

 

waiting for E19, when E19 will released world wide? 

post #94 of 3104
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waiting for E19, when E19 will released world wide? 

I think it may take a bit.

 

http://www.fiio.com.cn/news/index.aspx?ID=233

 

The E17 is kinda new. That articles shows units FiiO will be demoing to customers at fairs soon. It seems they are putting out and giving demonstrations for all the units they can get running at the time. As it says Prototype. Since it doesn't appear, I'll guess it's not even ready for a late year prototype.

post #95 of 3104

I am anxious to hear more about the E12.  I am in the market for a new headphone amp.  I have been going up...E3 to E6 next to E12?

 

I know that it is said over $100 and less than $200.  I can't see it costing as much as a E17.  I am hoping for some good first impressions....

 

Good on FiiO to keep the product rollout coming.  I like to see companies getting better and for the price they have my support! :)

 

PS: Is Focalprice.com an authorized dealer?  I just bought a L9 from them.  The others I bought from the authorized dealer in Canada.


Edited by wullymc - 8/7/12 at 7:50pm
post #96 of 3104
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I can't see it costing as much as a E17.

You'll be surprised how expensive "good" parts can go. Opamp can go for a few cent to $50.each. wink.gif
post #97 of 3104
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You'll be surprised how expensive "good" parts can go. Opamp can go for a few cent to $50.each. wink.gif

In Hong Kong, authentic Elite op amps from RS or somethign were like a few dollars if I remember. 

post #98 of 3104
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Originally Posted by wullymc View Post

I am anxious to hear more about the E12.  I am in the market for a new headphone amp.  I have been going up...E3 to E6 next to E12?

 

I know that it is said over $100 and less than $200.  I can't see it costing as much as a E17.  I am hoping for some good first impressions....

 

Good on FiiO to keep the product rollout coming.  I like to see companies getting better and for the price they have my support! :)

 

PS: Is Focalprice.com an authorized dealer?  I just bought a L9 from them.  The others I bought from the authorized dealer in Canada.

 

The price is depended on what OP amp , one OPA627 cost from $12.5 to $62.9, you can calculate how much will be cost for two OPA627.

 

The production of such op amp for hi end audio is very limited so hard to buy it in very cheap price. the price ban be check on TI

 

 http://www.ti.com/product/opa627

post #99 of 3104

I wonder what the E18 is going to be like. Is it just the E17 with Android digital out capabilities? 

post #100 of 3104
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I wonder what the E18 is going to be like. Is it just the E17 with Android digital out capabilities? 

FiiO would usually improve on their designs even more.

 

I think a bigger question is how it will work? Is it some new univeral device that works with every Android device with OTG support no matter what!? Does it require Cyanogen!? And lots of other questions.

 

Also...we need a cool name. We are currently on Android 4.1.x Jelly Bean 

 

So FiiO E18 Jordan? In recognition of the Jordan river? Doesn't always have to be mountain maybe but it sounds cool to have a Android DAC with a letter following something that Google is doing with

 

CUPCAKE

DONUT

ECLAIR

FROYO

GINGERBREAD

HONEYCOMB

ICE CREAM SANDWHICH

JELLY BEAN

 

They are in alphabetical order in case it wasn't clear

post #101 of 3104
No async capabilities in any Dac/amps?
post #102 of 3104
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Originally Posted by feiao View Post

 

The price is depended on what OP amp , one OPA627 cost from $12.5 to $62.9, you can calculate how much will be cost for two OPA627.

 

The production of such op amp for hi end audio is very limited so hard to buy it in very cheap price. the price ban be check on TI

 

 http://www.ti.com/product/opa627

 

Thanks for the link.  I didn't know how much the op amps go for.  At most I've heard is $20.  I know FiiO can keep the $$$ down for this amp ;)

 

Thanks again for the info!

post #103 of 3104

I was thinking of picking up an E17 for my laptop. Should I be waiting for the E18 or E19? 

As an aside, I have a Galaxy Nexus. I thought the issue with USB Audio on Android devices was a driver issue. What does Parall3l mean by the E18 is going to allow for Android digital out? What does the DAC (FiiO)  have to do with anything?

post #104 of 3104
FiiO!
I love the name, it was very interesting even before learning the meaning to it. And how could someone not like "I believe I can fly," it's a great uplifting song! Too bad the song has been used for an ironic joke about people or things that have failed to fly. Feiao, the name and Logo are great for identifying your brand, you should be proud!

On the E12, I think it will be very interesting when it's released November/December (on the typical Western calendar, I'm mildly curious what that would be on the Chinese calendar?). Between $100-$200 USD seems reasonable for a product selling alongside the other portables, I'd assume that at its level of quality the price will have about the same relation to the E17 as the current E11 has with the E7.
I'm not sure I see the strength of the target market though... I understand that the E12 is going to be a very powerful yet very slim portable amp, but by the time a consumer needs such an amp, aren't they using a full-size headphone such as an AKG K702 or Sennheiser 650HD? My point is why would you use an amp and music source that fits in your pocket when it is made for headphones you wouldn't walk around wearing anyway? Feel free to explain.
That said, I do believe it is good for the FiiO company to have a "flagship" amp to make a statement about what they believe is a top-quality amp. Kind of like how the Bugatti Veyron car is a statement vehicle for Volkswagon, though it is completely impractical even to those who can satisfy any whim. Now, the E12 wouldn't be at that extreme, but it would represent what the engineers are capable of designing for quality while at an economy price unmatched by other portable amp boutiques. I think that, even if it wouldn't be as popular as the cheaper E6/E11 or a desktop amp, it would make a statement that will influence the market.

With everything I've said about audiophile headphones being more "Transportable" than portable (typically), I'm still considering the E11 or E12 as an all-around amp to use on the go with my car and closed headphones and at home with my AKG Q701... Or is the product lineup intended to serve me as getting an E9 or E09k for my reference headphone, while getting an E6 for portable use? Either way, I've been very happy with the L3, L11, and E5 products FiiO made for my needs so far smily_headphones1.gif L11 feeding music from my iPod, to my E5, which gives extra juice to my car's weak receiver, has made it sound like I put in a whole new speaker system for just $35
post #105 of 3104
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

FiiO!
I love the name, it was very interesting even before learning the meaning to it. And how could someone not like "I believe I can fly," it's a great uplifting song! Too bad the song has been used for an ironic joke about people or things that have failed to fly. Feiao, the name and Logo are great for identifying your brand, you should be proud!
On the E12, I think it will be very interesting when it's released November/December (on the typical Western calendar, I'm mildly curious what that would be on the Chinese calendar?). Between $100-$200 USD seems reasonable for a product selling alongside the other portables, I'd assume that at its level of quality the price will have about the same relation to the E17 as the current E11 has with the E7.
I'm not sure I see the strength of the target market though... I understand that the E12 is going to be a very powerful yet very slim portable amp, but by the time a consumer needs such an amp, aren't they using a full-size headphone such as an AKG K702 or Sennheiser 650HD? My point is why would you use an amp and music source that fits in your pocket when it is made for headphones you wouldn't walk around wearing anyway? Feel free to explain.
That said, I do believe it is good for the FiiO company to have a "flagship" amp to make a statement about what they believe is a top-quality amp. Kind of like how the Bugatti Veyron car is a statement vehicle for Volkswagon, though it is completely impractical even to those who can satisfy any whim. Now, the E12 wouldn't be at that extreme, but it would represent what the engineers are capable of designing for quality while at an economy price unmatched by other portable amp boutiques. I think that, even if it wouldn't be as popular as the cheaper E6/E11 or a desktop amp, it would make a statement that will influence the market.
With everything I've said about audiophile headphones being more "Transportable" than portable (typically), I'm still considering the E11 or E12 as an all-around amp to use on the go with my car and closed headphones and at home with my AKG Q701... Or is the product lineup intended to serve me as getting an E9 or E09k for my reference headphone, while getting an E6 for portable use? Either way, I've been very happy with the L3, L11, and E5 products FiiO made for my needs so far smily_headphones1.gif L11 feeding music from my iPod, to my E5, which gives extra juice to my car's weak receiver, has made it sound like I put in a whole new speaker system for just $35

We have the same calendar. They are approx 12 hours ahead in the time of things but if it's December..unless you are at top or end of the month, the Chinese will be in december too.

 

E12 does look promising but I won't be taking my 701's anywhere.

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