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I'm confused... where did you hear about a new version with an even "higher" bass boost? This is the second time, that I remember, that someone has posted in this thread about mysterious versions past the official production model, aka version 2.

Must be one of those Internet Myths. From what I understand there was a pre-production version that  a few got and the rest have the production curve.

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hello everyone, i'm currently interested in getting an amp for jh 13 for a start. Would fiio e12 be a great fit for jh 13? thanks

post #2523 of 3054

That depends on the requirements regarding output impedance of your Jh 13. My E12 can run my Sony MDR-EX1000 and the XBA-H3 perfectly, but they are both @ 32 / 40 Ohm. So not very amp picky.

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hello everyone, i'm currently interested in getting an amp for jh 13 for a start. Would fiio e12 be a great fit for jh 13? thanks


JH13 is extremely sensitive, doesn't need an amp.

You should buy a DAC though, as it will improve the SQ greatly. I recommend the ODAC.

You can put E12 down the chain as well, but DAC is more important.

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My new mobile setup :)

 

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My new mobile setup :)

 

So what are you plugging into the E12 and how does it sound to you?

I find that my E12 can drive Hifiman HE-500's and Sennheiser HD600's.

Edit: I mean drive them well. :happy_face1:

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So what are you plugging into the E12 and how does it sound to you?

I find that my E12 can drive Hifiman HE-500's and Sennheiser HD600's.

Edit: I mean drive them well. :happy_face1:

 

I should be getting my Alpha Dogs within the next few weeks. That's what this setup is for, Only thing I have right now to play with is some Sony MA900's. Being they are very low impedance, this amp is overkill, however I can tell a difference due to the better quality components over just plugging it into the Clip+.

 

I tried to take the photo with the Rockbox logo on the Clip, but it doesn't stay up long enough. (sounds like a "that's what she said" joke)

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I should be getting my Alpha Dogs within the next few weeks. That's what this setup is for, Only thing I have right now to play with is some Sony MA900's. Being they are very low impedance, this amp is overkill, however I can tell a difference due to the better quality components over just plugging it into the Clip+.

 

I tried to take the photo with the Rockbox logo on the Clip, but it doesn't stay up long enough. (sounds like a "that's what she said" joke)

Those MA900's have an impednce of 12 Ohms so the very low output impedance of the E12's help tighten the bass by providing a good damping ratio. I'm sure that the Dog's will be howling once the make it into town.

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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

So what are you plugging into the E12 and how does it sound to you?

I find that my E12 can drive Hifiman HE-500's and Sennheiser HD600's.

Edit: I mean drive them well. :happy_face1:

 

I should be getting my Alpha Dogs within the next few weeks. That's what this setup is for, Only thing I have right now to play with is some Sony MA900's. Being they are very low impedance, this amp is overkill, however I can tell a difference due to the better quality components over just plugging it into the Clip+.

 

I tried to take the photo with the Rockbox logo on the Clip, but it doesn't stay up long enough. (sounds like a "that's what she said" joke)

 

Overkill? Eh, maybe. For the AD900x, which is similarly priced and tiered as the MA900, $400 worth of DAC and amp (aune T1 > iFi iCAN) might be overkill, but I'll be damned if it doesn't sound ******* amazing. As StanD wrote, the E12 will provide some nice tightening up of the bass. Let us know what you think!

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JH13 is extremely sensitive, doesn't need an amp.
You should buy a DAC though, as it will improve the SQ greatly. I recommend the ODAC.
You can put E12 down the chain as well, but DAC is more important.
Thanks for response. ODAC seems to be a problem for me now because it is a usb plugin DAC and doesn't support Apple devices, does it? I think a DAP may be a solution to me?
post #2531 of 3054
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Thanks for response. ODAC seems to be a problem for me now because it is a usb plugin DAC and doesn't support Apple devices, does it? I think a DAP may be a solution to me?

I believe that some iDevices can support an USB DAC by using the CCK (Camera Connection Kit). You will have to do your homework to research this. Maybe one of the geniuses in an Apple store can help with compatibility, advice on audio quality maybe not so much.

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I was thinking of getting a E17 and E12 combo...

Note 3->E17(DAC only using L7)->E12->XBA-3/Momentum/HD518...
Is it a bad idea???

post #2533 of 3054
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Originally Posted by BenF View Post


JH13 is extremely sensitive, doesn't need an amp.
You should buy a DAC though, as it will improve the SQ greatly. I recommend the ODAC.
You can put E12 down the chain as well, but DAC is more important.
Thanks for response. ODAC seems to be a problem for me now because it is a usb plugin DAC and doesn't support Apple devices, does it? I think a DAP may be a solution to me?
iPhone 4S running iOS 7 -> Apple Camera Connection Kit -> USB cable -> unpowered USB hub -> USB-miniUSB cable -> ODAC -> 3.5 mm interconnect -> JDS Labs C5 -> V-MODA Crossfade M-100 -> my ears



Why is the hub there? Because without it, this happens.



Alternatively, the new JDS Labs C5D (D for DAC) is self-powered, so the hub isn't necessary.
iPhone 4S running iOS 7 -> Apple Camera Connection Kit -> USB-miniUSB cable -> C5D -> V-MODA Crossfade M-100 -> my ears



Or with some Android devices, the USB OTG option is available too with a miniUSB-microUSB cable

Edited by miceblue - 12/28/13 at 2:29am
post #2534 of 3054
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Originally Posted by akash neagi View Post
 

I was thinking of getting a E17 and E12 combo...

Note 3->E17(DAC only using L7)->E12->XBA-3/Momentum/HD518...
Is it a bad idea???

You might consider getting the E18 instead of the E17 and skip the E12. The E18 has a little more amp power than the E17. I have an XBA-3, Momentum and HD558 (same transducer as the HD518) , among my collection and the amp in the E18 DAC/Amp can handle these easily. The XBA-3 will benefit the most as it's impedance is lowest and the lower impedance of an amp will improve the damping factor and tighten up the bass.I have a Galaxy S3 and it works well with the E18, so does my Windoze laptop.

Is there a particular reason that you chose the E17?

The E12 comes in handy for me with cans that are more power hungry than what you've listed, like my HE-500's. The E18 can even drive my HD600's but the E12 can drive them even louder as in ear splitting = more headroom.

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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

You might consider getting the E18 instead of the E17 and skip the E12. The E18 has a little more amp power than the E17. I have an XBA-3, Momentum and HD558 (same transducer as the HD518) , among my collection and the amp in the E18 DAC/Amp can handle these easily. The XBA-3 will benefit the most as it's impedance is lowest and the lower impedance of an amp will improve the damping factor and tighten up the bass.I have a Galaxy S3 and it works well with the E18, so does my Windoze laptop.

Is there a particular reason that you chose the E17?

The E12 comes in handy for me with cans that are more power hungry than what you've listed, like my HE-500's. The E18 can even drive my HD600's but the E12 can drive them even louder as in ear splitting = more headroom.

Thanks for your input!!!

The reason for selecting the e17 is firstly I like the warmer signature of the wolfson dac...

I'm kind of a basshead but I also like my mids and highs...

It also has a optical in which the e18 doesn't...

Plus I want to get an e9 later on for a desktop solution...or maybe a vali and mangi...

Kogan in Australia offers the HD650 for $350 with waranty so that's going to be my next purchase...

I hear the e18 is not as warm sounding as the e17...
I have been thinking about this combo for some time now but couldn't find anyone who has actually done it...

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