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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post
 

Oh that question was directed at me? I thought it was the other person. But yes, I never switch the gain since it's too much effort for me to get a sharp-ish object and slide it. That and even with the Mad Dog, I never had to go past 12 o'clock on the potentiometer, so having the higher gain seems pretty useless for me.

 

Crossfade off, gain on "0 dB," bass boost off, running on battery.

 

If I remember correctly the picture you posted showed your preference of potentiometer position below 9 AM where it is not balanced. You must be able to hear a pin drop a mile away. How do the M100's sound without an amp? The review on InnerFidelity said that they are sensitive enough to work on a portable device, so maybe for these an amp is not required.

Edit: At least the amp may not be required for the M100, but other devices maybe they are a good thing.

post #2357 of 3185
Wondering if he's bothered to check if maybe the gain switch is reversed/mislabeled and he's been using it in high gain the entire time?
post #2358 of 3185
The indented "dot" on the slider for the gain indicates the position, correct? The "dot" is towards the 0 label on the right and not the 16 one on the left.

As for the channel imbalance, the last photo in the series is past it. I mentioned that the region between channel imbalance and no channel imbalance is very small when turning the potentiometer, so it's hard for me to get no channel imbalance while still having it at a low [for me] volume level.
post #2359 of 3185
I mean, did you actually check if the gain wasn't reversed by ear? Like I said, it may have been reversed... worse things have happened. I mean, I've used the Fiio E12 with some very, very efficient cans like the KSC35 and MA900, and both needed at least up to 10-11 on 0 gain. The Ipod should have even less voltage than my laptop, so you should have some more play on the volume than I would. It doesn't make sense. Something has to be faulty, or you have the ears of god.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 10/7/13 at 9:54am
post #2360 of 3185
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

The indented "dot" on the slider for the gain indicates the position, correct? The "dot" is towards the 0 label on the right and not the 16 one on the left.

As for the channel imbalance, the last photo in the series is past it. I mentioned that the region between channel imbalance and no channel imbalance is very small when turning the potentiometer, so it's hard for me to get no channel imbalance while still having it at a low [for me] volume level.

 

Yes, the dot on the switch, which you move with a pen or pencil is moved toward the 0 or 16 based upon the amount of gain in dB you desire. You might want to move it to be sure of where it is. It may not be apparent at first glance since the movement isn't as extreme as the markings.

THose M100's are pretty sensitive and may not need to be amped. They certainly have enough bass to hammer it home. :basshead:

post #2361 of 3185
I use the E12 only for portable use with my W4R and M80 nowadays. I have no issues whatsoever with any loudness or too much power.

Also, I only use high gain when I'm at home with my MDs away from my desk.
post #2362 of 3185
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

How is the E12 too loud when there is a volume control?

That makes no sense.
iPod Volume x E12 Volume = Too loud.
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

The M100 isn't an iem. Granted, it's fairly sensitive, but a moderate volume should be quite a bit past the point of channel imbalance

If you listen super low, then... yeah, I dunno why there'd be a need for such a powerful amp in the first place.

Thing is, I don't listen super low. If I did, I would get a pair of supermarket earphones.

Why did I buy the amp? I was told that the E12 is an upgrade from my E17, and my E17 and LP2 work very well together, whereas my E17 and M100 work alright, even with FLAC and EQing.
post #2363 of 3185

Evs should be able to give his impression as he has both the E12 and M100... and I have yet to hear him make any complaints (though I doubt he has them paired together). I am sure, however, he's tested them together.

 

Evs?


Edited by Change is Good - 10/9/13 at 4:45pm
post #2364 of 3185
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Originally Posted by Change is Good View Post

Evs should be able to give his impression as he has both the E12 and M100... and I have yet to hear him make any complaints (though I doubt he has them paired together). I am sure, however, he's tested them together.

Evs?
I had the E12.
I have the E17, V-MODA LP2 and V-MODA M-100.
I returned the E12, even though suggested to let it burn in, because of the hole in my pocket using an amp that slightly improved my M100s, and the fact when using it I got mid titannius.
post #2365 of 3185
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

The indented "dot" on the slider for the gain indicates the position, correct? The "dot" is towards the 0 label on the right and not the 16 one on the left.

As for the channel imbalance, the last photo in the series is past it. I mentioned that the region between channel imbalance and no channel imbalance is very small when turning the potentiometer, so it's hard for me to get no channel imbalance while still having it at a low [for me] volume level.
I experienced channel imbalance with my V-MODA M100s using the E12 while either turning off the amp or turning it on. Pull the volume more, no imbalance.
post #2366 of 3185
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Originally Posted by Existence View Post

iPod Volume x E12 Volume = Too loud.
Thing is, I don't listen super low. If I did, I would get a pair of supermarket earphones.

Why did I buy the amp? I was told that the E12 is an upgrade from my E17, and my E17 and LP2 work very well together, whereas my E17 and M100 work alright, even with FLAC and EQing.
I think the sound sign is the same for the most part. The E17 is more adjustable though. I really enjoyed the E17 and wish I never sold it. Yep the e12 is loud I just keep it 2 clicks past on and that's enough for my IEMs.
post #2367 of 3185
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Originally Posted by Existence View Post

iPod Volume x E12 Volume = Too loud.
Thing is, I don't listen super low. If I did, I would get a pair of supermarket earphones.

Why did I buy the amp? I was told that the E12 is an upgrade from my E17, and my E17 and LP2 work very well together, whereas my E17 and M100 work alright, even with FLAC and EQing.
I think the sound sign is the same for the most part. The E17 is more adjustable though. I really enjoyed the E17 and wish I never sold it. Yep the e12 is loud I just keep it 2 clicks past on and that's enough for my IEMs.
The E17 is way better for my ears and headphones than the E12.
I barely use my E17. Send me a PM?
Edited by Existence - 10/12/13 at 2:16am
post #2368 of 3185

can you use the Fiio E12 with Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and get good results? If the answer is yes, do you ned to buy an extra cable?

post #2369 of 3185
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can you use the Fiio E12 with Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and get good results? If the answer is yes, do you ned to buy an extra cable?
Go forward two pages or less.
post #2370 of 3185
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Originally Posted by martybm5 View Post
 

The E12 is probably too powerful for IEMs ...... IMHO is definitely more suitable for full size hard to drive cans


Exactly. moreover you won't find the juice of it until you connect the power-hungry headphones as against paired with 99% IEMS. it's an exclusive HP amp to drive demanding hi-impedance drivers viz monitoring,PRO,recording,studio,reference,even ortho Dynamics/planars. It makes/is a difference to drive a 3mm-13.5mm drivers to 40mm-53mm's.

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