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post #1921 of 2995
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

Micca is listed on the approved vendors, and I purchased mine through them, but they don't have a product page anymore. What happened?

They don't have a product page? Forgive me if I'm not understanding what you mean.

 

http://www.miccastore.com/

 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/browse.html?ie=UTF8&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&me=AFKH6OU9WWNFS

 

Edit: The E12, however, is not listed so it looks like it may be out of stock.


Edited by Change is Good - 5/13/13 at 4:52pm
post #1922 of 2995
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Quote:
Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

Micca is listed on the approved vendors, and I purchased mine through them, but they don't have a product page anymore. What happened?

They don't have a product page? Forgive me if I'm not understanding what you mean.

 

http://www.miccastore.com/

 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/browse.html?ie=UTF8&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&me=AFKH6OU9WWNFS

 

Edit: The E12, however, is not listed so it looks like it may be out of stock.

Yeah that's what I meant. The website doesn't even have a webpage for it.

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post #1924 of 2995
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Originally Posted by ZINCOGNITO View Post

First time posting but a long time lurker.

Where could I find one of these bad boys?

MP4Nation has E12 with worldwide free shipping.

post #1925 of 2995
Micca doesnt list a product if they dont have it in stock.

Mp4 has it but its best to buy from your national or regional dealer so that in case a problem arises. They can help you.
post #1926 of 2995
Anyone try the CLAS -R or CLAS original with an E12?

I am wondering if that's a good choice or not.
Thanks.
post #1927 of 2995
Should I turn the gain switch on, or leave it at 0?
Is it better for battery life, heat, etc to have a low gain and higher volume, or a high gain with the volume down low?

Re: stock, noisy motel in australia has stock, that's where I got mine from. smily_headphones1.gif
Edited by jjcoolaus - 5/14/13 at 8:01am
post #1928 of 2995

The only reason you should ever need gain is if full volume +0 gain is too quiet. If you can get a satisfactory volume without gain, then there's no need for gain.

post #1929 of 2995
I don't know for sure, but I think the battery lasts longer on low-gain, and that's what I use.
post #1930 of 2995

Big newbie here, anyone want to give me a brief rundown of the pros/cons between the E12 and the E17? Both are like the same price at Amazon atm.

post #1931 of 2995
ok thanks pngwn, I ask because this video from headphonereviewhq suggests that you leave it turned on all the time, but with my DT770pro-80 having the gain on took away some of the bass and drove the cans far too loud, probably much louder than those headphones should be driven.

anyway here's the review video I saw:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cu8SCgFCAM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
post #1932 of 2995
That reviewer lost me at the nearly arbitrary 20% differences and the "1-2db bass boost" of the E12 opposed to the actual 6db (iirc?) boost. Also, he ran it "all day"? Unless the E12 v2 has a significantly longer battery life than the v1, it should have died about 9 hours of play with zero gain and bass boost on, not even regarding the fact that he hadn't run it from a full charge.

Also, I see no reason why gain should always be on and question why the reviewer chose to audition and compare all three devices with gain on. I'm not an expert on FiiO amps, but do the three even have the same db gain boost? In any case, if you can comfortably adjust your cans' volume without gain, why turn the gain on and lose so much room on the volume pot for adjusting how loud your music plays when you can just leave it off and be able to more carefully control how loudly or softly your ears get bombarded.
post #1933 of 2995

For the people who were inquiring about where to buy... Emusic Enterprise will have them in stock on May 22 if you are buying through Amazon.

 

http://www.amazon.com/FiiO-E12-Portable-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B00B6QXWIY/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1368608347&sr=1-1&keywords=e12

post #1934 of 2995
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Originally Posted by renzpwns View Post

Big newbie here, anyone want to give me a brief rundown of the pros/cons between the E12 and the E17? Both are like the same price at Amazon atm.

 

I have both, and prefer E17

 

E17 advantages:

1) Better bass boost - around 20HZ instead of much higher in E12

2) Treble boost

3) A good DAC

4) Better EMI

5) Better interface

 

E12 advantages:

1) More power

2) Higher gain 16DB vs 12DB

3) Crossfade (hate the switch)

post #1935 of 2995
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

I don't know for sure, but I think the battery lasts longer on low-gain, and that's what I use.

 

Well, not really.

Short answer is:

 

Higher Gain (16 dB) does not necessarily mean more power.

Power draw really has more to do with headphone efficiency and how loud you are listening.

 

If you have low efficiency 'phones and listen really loud, then battery does not alst too long between charges.

 

If you have high efficiency 'phones and listen really quiet then you don't need to charge as often.

 

Headphone efficiency is how much power your 'phones draw, not how high you have to set the gain or the volume.

 

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Originally Posted by BenF View Post

 

I have both, and prefer E17

 

E17 advantages:

1) Better bass boost - around 20HZ instead of much higher in E12

2) Treble boost

3) A good DAC

4) Better EMI

5) Better interface

 

E12 advantages:

1) More power

2) Higher gain 16DB vs 12DB

3) Crossfade (hate the switch)

 

Another E12 advantage:

I have a pair of 600 Ohm Beyer DT880s, the E12 does a better job of driving those 'phones than the E17 as they need more voltage and the E12 outputs more voltage

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