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post #106 of 195
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Originally Posted by FCO2013 View Post

I am interested in those Monoprices...but I'm not sure if I should just save the money towards a bigger purchase.

 

For those that own it, would they be appropriate for alternative, jazz, and classical?

My friend bought a pair of those and although they are good, don't expect miracles.  The start to sound miraculous when you start to apply a little EQ here and a little EQ there.

 

You can spend more and get less sound quality than what you get with the Monoprices though...

post #107 of 195

Hi,

 

It beats out every other headphone in the range? HD600, DT880, K701, HE-300 to name a few. I think it's performance alone makes it much better than those.

 

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Originally Posted by donunus View Post

How is a 400 dollar range headphone a giant killer unless it beats a $5000 headphone or is at leat near it in quality :) You are comparing it with its peers dude LOL

post #108 of 195
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Originally Posted by Zombie_X View Post

Hi,

It beats out every other headphone in the range? HD600, DT880, K701, HE-300 to name a few. I think it's performance alone makes it much better than those.

I think the point, but I may be wrong, was that it should be better than headphones more expensive (or otherwise "better regraded") than it, not competitive in or under its price range (remember, these are $669.99 SRP, and run the gamut between $380 and $600 on Amazon (http://camelcamelcamel.com/Beyerdynamic-70-Over-Headphone-Black/product/B005EEOTFY)). At least that's how I read the intent and donunus' post - if the T70 were superior to something like the T1 or HD 800 it would be a "giant killer" in it's own right, but being better than its competition is perhaps just "good." redface.gif
post #109 of 195

Yah thats just what I meant. Thanks for rephrasing obobskivich

post #110 of 195

Honestly, I think that "giant" has to deal with a bit of perspective.

I mean, to us, elephants are giant, but to ants, a grasshopper is giant.

I know that's kind of too "zen" for the thread, but it also applies to headphones.

I consider the Monoprice 8320s to be "giant" killers. For a $7 headphone, beating average hi-fi earphones in the $50-$90 price range, that's pretty giant. It's competitive up to 10x its price point. I think that that's a bit more giant than an $800 set beating a $1200 set (1.5x its price point).

 

post #111 of 195
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Originally Posted by FCO2013 View Post

I am interested in those Monoprices...but I'm not sure if I should just save the money towards a bigger purchase.

 

For those that own it, would they be appropriate for alternative, jazz, and classical?

They are excellent for jazz and good for classical. You should get them.

post #112 of 195
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Originally Posted by elvergun View Post

My friend bought a pair of those and although they are good, don't expect miracles.  The start to sound miraculous when you start to apply a little EQ here and a little EQ there.

 

You can spend more and get less sound quality than what you get with the Monoprices though...

Very well put. If you have an iPod Touch/ iPhone, get the app called EQu. It's like 2 or 3 bucks, and it's a great equalizer.

post #113 of 195
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Originally Posted by CashNotCredit View Post

Honestly, I think that "giant" has to deal with a bit of perspective.

I mean, to us, elephants are giant, but to ants, a grasshopper is giant.

I know that's kind of too "zen" for the thread, but it also applies to headphones.

I consider the Monoprice 8320s to be "giant" killers. For a $7 headphone, beating average hi-fi earphones in the $50-$90 price range, that's pretty giant. It's competitive up to 10x its price point. I think that that's a bit more giant than an $800 set beating a $1200 set (1.5x its price point).

 

Excellent point, sir. When you look at the pricepoints, if you took a $300 headphone, and it performed up to 10x the competition, that would be incredible. I guess people don't put the Monoprice into that perspective.

post #114 of 195
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Originally Posted by biggbenn74 View Post

They are excellent for jazz and good for classical. You should get them.

 

One thing to note, the soundstage is small. It's to be expected with closed cheap cans. I can tell you it's not really a "giant killer" for those genres, but still not a terrible choice. I know whenever I'm playing some Coltrane or Ben-Hur I'll always reach for my Q701, no question.

post #115 of 195
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Originally Posted by AxelCloris View Post

 

I know whenever I'm playing some Coltrane or Ben-Hur I'll always reach for my Q701, no question.

Well, duh! Same here! :)

 

But keep in mind, $250 compared to $25. The Monoprice aren't huge giant killers, but they will best most cans around $100. That's the wow factor right there. And, I agree, because they are closed, they have a little bit more bass, but not too much. They also don't have the soundstage that you can get out of an open pair. Still, at the end of the day, a great set of headphones.

post #116 of 195

Yo,

 

One thing to keep in mind is that everyone idea of "giant killer" is different. Also in the audio world what defines a giant? The T1 and HD800 are two of those "giants" but really how much better are they than a $300 pair of headphones.Do they sound nearly 3-4 times better than their lower end counter parts (to justify the price increase)? This is all subjective and personal bias IMO.

 

Also in my honest opinion, the T70 is near the T5p's performance level, but not quite there. I'll go back on what I said in the past about how I feel the T70 stacks up in it's price range as of late I feel it's worth a lot more than $500, maybe full retail is worth it. Granted I think the T5p should be $800-$900, but I feel the T70 is close to what the T5p offers, from a performance standpoint, not sonics.

 

These new tesla headphone from beyerdynamic are revolutionary. From all my experience with various tesla models so far I can say without a doubt that they perform way above their price point. Beyerdynamic has clearly done their research and the results are startling to me. How can a $600 headphone rival a $1000+ pair? Heck Ia feel the T1 is superior to the HD800. 

 

 

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Oh and one for thing about the T70, I bought mine for $299, nearly new.

post #117 of 195
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Originally Posted by Zombie_X View Post

Yo,

One thing to keep in mind is that everyone idea of "giant killer" is different. Also in the audio world what defines a giant? The T1 and HD800 are two of those "giants" but really how much better are they than a $300 pair of headphones.Do they sound nearly 3-4 times better than their lower end counter parts (to justify the price increase)? This is all subjective and personal bias IMO.

Also in my honest opinion, the T70 is near the T5p's performance level, but not quite there. I'll go back on what I said in the past about how I feel the T70 stacks up in it's price range as of late I feel it's worth a lot more than $500, maybe full retail is worth it. Granted I think the T5p should be $800-$900, but I feel the T70 is close to what the T5p offers, from a performance standpoint, not sonics.

These new tesla headphone from beyerdynamic are revolutionary. From all my experience with various tesla models so far I can say without a doubt that they perform way above their price point. Beyerdynamic has clearly done their research and the results are startling to me. How can a $600 headphone rival a $1000+ pair? Heck Ia feel the T1 is superior to the HD800. 

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Oh and one for thing about the T70, I bought mine for $299, nearly new.

So what do you think about the T70 overall? What do they sound like?
post #118 of 195

You guys want the latest.. JVC HA-S500.. Very definition of giant slayers.Look back on this post in a months time. You all will know what I am talking about. $50.Sounds better than so many headphones out there in headphone land. Carbon Nanotubes for the win..

post #119 of 195
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

You guys want the latest.. JVC HA-S500.. Very definition of giant slayers.Look back on this post in a months time. You all will know what I am talking about. $50.Sounds better than so many headphones out there in headphone land. Carbon Nanotubes for the win..

Hmm... Interesting. Japanese import?

post #120 of 195

Yes..I have been a huge fan of what JVC has been doing this year. If you guys want a taste of what Carbon Nanotube is about. Go get yourselves the JVC FX40 which cost around $20-$25ish. They require at least 100-150 hours of burn before they sound correct but afterward. I will admit the MP8320 has been one of the best bang for dollar iems. But those and all other great bang for buck iems don't come close to the FX40.  Likewise for their new headphones the HA-S500.. Import yes but worth tracking one down.

 

All JVC products this year would fall into the giant killer category. Mostly their iems. The FX101, FX40, FXD60,FXD70,FXD80.  All of these iems use carbon nanotubes except the FX101. . When the HA-S500 headphones hit last month. I had to try one out..For iems these have the precision, detail and speed of BAs but with the bass end of dynamics. All from one driver. Some of the best imagery I have ever heard for earphones. The FXD80 has the most refinement but many on the thread agree it pulls way more than what they cost. The headphones HA-S500 are no different. The only negative is that they are on ears portables. But the imagery and detail is so awesome I used it for COD MW3 and it is about as perfect as you want for gaming and movies. Oh and for music. Lets just say I have never heard anything like them at this price.

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