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post #136 of 229
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Was unable to find distributor here. Dealt with Lake People direct: "Fried Reim" . Try him again for clarifications on distributor in your area.

 

Well, up to a month or two ago, AddictedtoAudio in Melbourne were stocking Lake People amps. Not sure what happened to them now.

post #137 of 229
So how much difference is there between G109 and O2? Neutral is neutral, right? smily_headphones1.gif
post #138 of 229
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So how much difference is there between G109 and O2? Neutral is neutral, right? smily_headphones1.gif
Can't say since I have not experienced O2.
Edited by Advent75 - 12/10/13 at 11:42am
post #139 of 229

In my feeling the 109 is just a tad warmer than neutral... Can't compare to the O2 though, never heard it.

 

Fried is the founder and CEO of Lake People btw.

post #140 of 229

Wow I'm getting a G109s! It's still overseas though.  I'll finally get the most out of my HD600s now that they have a good dac/amp and I'll be ready for LCD-2s in a very long long time.

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Wow I'm getting a G109s! It's still overseas though.  I'll finally get the most out of my HD600s now that they have a good dac/amp and I'll be ready for LCD-2s in a very long long time.

 

Nice! Congrats.

post #142 of 229
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Wow I'm getting a G109s! It's still overseas though.  I'll finally get the most out of my HD600s now that they have a good dac/amp and I'll be ready for LCD-2s in a very long long time.
Have you received your new Lake People G109?
post #143 of 229
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Have you received your new Lake People G109?

Yep I did, It came a few weeks.  Upgrading from a Fiio E9 I've noticed a ton more detail in the highs and a little bit better overall separation.  It doesn't seem like $450 worth of improvement but I guess I'm already reaching the point of diminishing returns.... Or I was just a lot closer to getting the most out of my HD600s before with my fiio stuff.

post #144 of 229
Thanks. Guess price of new amp minus price of your old amp = $ worth of impr based on your reply (just kidding). In my case, started w/ Magni-Modi and 2 diff HiFiMan models. Then on to Audez'e HP which provided for a higher level of enjoyment to me. I then wondered how the experience would change if I went for a different HP amp, thus the Lake People G109-P which provided for clearer sound, pin-point vol control and added build features. Don't know how to measure the "experience change" except to say I'm pleased very much! The rest of the story is a DAC change which further changed the experience.
post #145 of 229
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Looks like the G109 made Tyll's headphone amplifier wall of fame:

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/innerfidelitys-wall-fame-headphone-amplifiers

post #146 of 229

I just got a G103-S and I must say it's a great little amp.  I'm still warming to the sound of my HD600s and DT880s with it but it works perfectly for my Mad Dogs...which was the pair I bought it for.  So all is well.  Nice work, Fried!

post #147 of 229

Would G109 be a substantial upgrade over the G103 with the K701? These cans demand some current to be driven properly. 

post #148 of 229

The G109 is said to be overall more refined (which always sounds suspiciously like ' justifying the price difference' ;-), but both have more than enough power to drive the K701 I'd say. Given its rather low power handling capacity both the G103 with ~1.1W @50Ohm and the G109 with ~1.9W @50Ohm are way beyond what the K701 can digest.

 

I'd not spend the extra money only to get even more power the headphone cannot take... To me the more interesting features of the G109P vs. G103S/P and G109S are the input options and the relay (protecting the headphones when power cycling). That may be an argument. Or not -- depends on your use case.

post #149 of 229

Actually AKG K7XX are not so simple to drive. Just one fact I know - recabled K702 in balanced mode with Yulong A28 (over 2W output power) acquire pretty powerful bass. 

post #150 of 229

That won't change the fact that the driver will only work reliably with a sustained power level of 200mW...

A real symmetric amp design will make each stage see only half the load, therefore they may play with more authority.

 

Given the K701/702s sensivity of 105dB @1mW they will peak at around 123dB -- way beyond healthy levels. I really don't think it comes down to raw power... slew rate may be a factor, and more powerful amps are often better in that regard. Still no reason to upgrade from G103 to G109 I think.

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