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post #166 of 199

Never realized my IE8's were under-performing until I got the re272's. I got the IE8's for 170$ for which I can't complain; but I got the re272's for 160$ and they're just leagues ahead. Was not expecting that.

 

Also took the time to open some IE80's in the store I work at, burned them in over three weeks and played around with them along the way; slight improvement over the IE8's, but still, not even close to the performance of the re272.

 

Not to say the IE8(0)'s are disappointing, but they're underwhelming compared to many small competitors.

 

Have also had experience with the gr07 and dba mkII recently which are still better overall; but still not quite as good as the hifiman flagship to my ears.

 

And lastly, it's hard to be impressed with IEM's  when you're used to high end rigs with real cans! wink_face.gif
 

post #167 of 199
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Originally Posted by dleblanc343 View Post

Never realized my IE8's were under-performing until I got the re272's. I got the IE8's for 170$ for which I can't complain; but I got the re272's for 160$ and they're just leagues ahead. Was not expecting that.

 

Also took the time to open some IE80's in the store I work at, burned them in over three weeks and played around with them along the way; slight improvement over the IE8's, but still, not even close to the performance of the re272.

 

Not to say the IE8(0)'s are disappointing, but they're underwhelming compared to many small competitors.

 

Have also had experience with the gr07 and dba mkII recently which are still better overall; but still not quite as good as the hifiman flagship to my ears.

 

And lastly, it's hard to be impressed with IEM's  when you're used to high end rigs with real cans! wink_face.gif
 


Not always the case. I sold my W3000 ANVs for IEMs and used my Silver-cabled IE80s much more than Audiotechnicas Flagship. Your millage will vary.

post #168 of 199

A properly driven top of the line headphone (HD800, TH900, LCD3, HE500) is leagues beyond any custom IEM (JH13, UERM, Heir 6.A, Merlin); even when considering certain colorations to the sound. They've got better technical ability in imaging (instrument positioning, space, depth), soundstaging, and the ability to represent a larger portion of the audio spectrum. They also make mixing and mastering music much easier than with IEM's.

 

Of course, finding the tonality and sound texture of your preference is important, and some people might find it with in-ears.

 

I'd probably be more enthusiastic about customs if I did not have such painstaking adventures from bad fitting and remolds; but selling my JH13's to fund HD800's and Heir 6.a for HE500's with DHC cable leaves me with no regret.
 

post #169 of 199
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Originally Posted by dleblanc343 View Post

A properly driven top of the line headphone (HD800, TH900, LCD3, HE500) is leagues beyond any custom IEM (JH13, UERM, Heir 6.A, Merlin); even when considering certain colorations to the sound. They've got better technical ability in imaging (instrument positioning, space, depth), soundstaging, and the ability to represent a larger portion of the audio spectrum. They also make mixing and mastering music much easier than with IEM's.

 

Of course, finding the tonality and sound texture of your preference is important, and some people might find it with in-ears.

 

I'd probably be more enthusiastic about customs if I did not have such painstaking adventures from bad fitting and remolds; but selling my JH13's to fund HD800's and Heir 6.a for HE500's with DHC cable leaves me with no regret.
 


Well I guess I was lucky to find the Tralucent 1Plus2. Plus it actually sounds better as a universal fit IEM. Go figure. I do agree with the Custom IEM bit in regards to fit and comfort. I got severe pains and cuts in my ears with my Custom TF10s. Not to mention the sound wasn't really an improvement warranting what I had paid to have them done to begin with. I'm still skeptical though about a properly driven full size headphone vastly beating every custom IEM. I think you may just have not found the right one yet. Although there is nothing wrong with preferring full size cans. The Audio technicas were great sounding headphones and did have a rather large sound stage for a closed can. Just they didn't get enough usage time and weren't nearly as comfortable as my IEMs. So in the end I sold them to fund my new Universal Customs. I can't say these are a downgrade in anyways though.


Edited by lee730 - 8/23/12 at 12:50am
post #170 of 199

I'm a big IEM person and that's really all I've listen to for the past couple of years but I need to get a good high quality set of headphones like the HD800 or HE500 to see if they might change my mind.

post #171 of 199

I am tempted though to get the HE500/ LCD3 and possibly a few others down the road. For now though I don't really feel like I'm missing much. Maybe more so in the sound stage area.
 


Edited by lee730 - 8/23/12 at 1:33am
post #172 of 199
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I am tempted though to get the HE500/ LCD3 and possibly a few others down the road. For now though I don't really feel like I'm missing much. Maybe more so in the sound stage area.
 


Well the HE500's are great for their price. You won't get as much micro details vs higher end customs, but I find them more natural and easy to listen to for long sessions. I like what Hifiman has to offer, their headphones and in-ears are very competitive for their price tags imo.

post #173 of 199

Interesting.  I have gone the other way from Denon D7000, Senn Hd650 & LCD2 to iems.  There is of course some loss in fidelity but the portability makes up for it.  With my SM3, GR07 or um3x in my ears I don't miss my cans.

post #174 of 199
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Interesting.  I have gone the other way from Denon D7000, Senn Hd650 & LCD2 to iems.  There is of course some loss in fidelity but the portability makes up for it.  With my SM3, GR07 or um3x in my ears I don't miss my cans.


Same. Otherwise I'd still have my W3000ANVS :).

post #175 of 199

im going to throw my 2 cents in on this matter.

 

i believe a lot of well seasoned audiophiles and noobs are actually looking for a very similar sound signature. some people are bassheads and some are not, but aside from that my point is this.

 

the sound signature i would like to hear from my headphones or any stereo that i would consider to be good is not just something that i feel is my preference alone. I feel like i'm looking for a very IDEAL sound signature that many people would agree is right on the spot if they heard it "sounds pompous doesn't it :) " . this ideal "realistic" sound signature works well across a wide varieties of music. good extension at the ends but not sacrificing the mids and no humps there either. believeable soundstage. not like im hearing a band playing at the other end of a windy tunnel. REALISTIC.

 

i think a lot of people are looking for something like this. but there are so many headphones and companies out ther who intentionally "beat around the bush" so to speak. just to keep people searching on for that perfect sound. and indeed once you start spending 150 + for some iems in search of that perfect sound. much more to the point if you are expecting any compromise when spending that much. one can't help but wonder. "how much did it actually cost to manufacture these tiny little plasticky things?"

post #176 of 199
Don't really follow that. Everyone is different. The massive success of Beats plays to the consumer bass quantity is everything taste, frowned upon on audio enthusiast sites. Some like Etys whilst I could not imagine anything more timid than my old Shure E4G. Last year I visited hifi headphones assuming the UM3 upgrade was nailed on being a UM2 fan but walked out instead with the SE535 and PFE 232, the former of which gets hate on this site for not having enough bass.
post #177 of 199

Amperior! Recased Hd25 with $100 price hike. -.-

post #178 of 199
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Amperior! Recased Hd25 with $100 price hike. -.-

Opps. Not iem. 

iem will be all customs !

post #179 of 199
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Originally Posted by LFC_SL View Post

Don't really follow that. Everyone is different. The massive success of Beats plays to the consumer bass quantity is everything taste, frowned upon on audio enthusiast sites. Some like Etys whilst I could not imagine anything more timid than my old Shure E4G. Last year I visited hifi headphones assuming the UM3 upgrade was nailed on being a UM2 fan but walked out instead with the SE535 and PFE 232, the former of which gets hate on this site for not having enough bass.

 

UM2= Brilliant.

UM3X= Ehh... I can see why some people would like it, but not a fan...

W4= Also, I can see why some people likes it. Hate how it just sounds so lifeless and sterile. Makes an ER-4S sound fun.

post #180 of 199
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Originally Posted by dleblanc343 View Post

A properly driven top of the line headphone (HD800, TH900, LCD3, HE500) is leagues beyond any custom IEM (JH13, UERM, Heir 6.A, Merlin); even when considering certain colorations to the sound. They've got better technical ability in imaging (instrument positioning, space, depth), soundstaging, and the ability to represent a larger portion of the audio spectrum. They also make mixing and mastering music much easier than with IEM's.

 

Of course, finding the tonality and sound texture of your preference is important, and some people might find it with in-ears.

 

I'd probably be more enthusiastic about customs if I did not have such painstaking adventures from bad fitting and remolds; but selling my JH13's to fund HD800's and Heir 6.a for HE500's with DHC cable leaves me with no regret.
 

 If it's a headphone of any type, it wont give a realistic perspective on the sound. I've currently got stax and heard lots more including things like current Sens, Beyer and even AKG1000s (owned way back) with recordings that I know and none of it sounds like the guy is in the room in front of me if it was recorded that way, and I have. Be happy if it pans correctly, sounds natural in structure and you relate to what the musician is trying to say. Mix with speakers, for speakers and you'll always do better.

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