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post #136 of 563
I have rolled 6DJ8 tubes in my Sonic Frontier power amp in the past. I am considering getting the Valhalla, so this thread has been of real interest to me. Please see my post in the recommendations forum.

I have rolled Mullards, Telefunkens, Amperex PQ 6922 and bugle boys, Sovtek 6922, JJ 6DJ8.

To my ears, there was a world of difference between the older NOS stuff and the Sovteks. Sovtek were just bright and brittle. Terrible.

The Mullards were darker and softer, the Telefunkens neutral and clean, PQ similar to the Telefunkens but not as clean and smooth. By far, in this amp and system, the best sounding were the bugle boys (tubes ranged from 1962 to 64). Beautiful open detailed sound. Made the music seem present and alive. Awesome tube. Truly made a significant improvement. The Mullards and Telefunkens actually made a good mixed combination (4 6DJ8 tubes).

The power tubes in this amp are EL34. Could also roll in KT 88 and KT90 tubes. Power tubes didn't effect the sound as much as the driver tubes, but the type 2 KT90 Ei tubes were awesome. All gone now from what I understand.

I'm interested, if I get the Valhalla, of the effect of tube rolling.
post #137 of 563
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Originally Posted by Rusty143 View Post

I have rolled 6DJ8 tubes in my Sonic Frontier power amp in the past. I am considering getting the Valhalla, so this thread has been of real interest to me. Please see my post in the recommendations forum.

I have rolled Mullards, Telefunkens, Amperex PQ 6922 and bugle boys, Sovtek 6922, JJ 6DJ8.

To my ears, there was a world of difference between the older NOS stuff and the Sovteks. Sovtek were just bright and brittle. Terrible.

The Mullards were darker and softer, the Telefunkens neutral and clean, PQ similar to the Telefunkens but not as clean and smooth. By far, in this amp and system, the best sounding were the bugle boys (tubes ranged from 1962 to 64). Beautiful open detailed sound. Made the music seem present and alive. Awesome tube. Truly made a significant improvement. The Mullards and Telefunkens actually made a good mixed combination (4 6DJ8 tubes).

The power tubes in this amp are EL34. Could also roll in KT 88 and KT90 tubes. Power tubes didn't effect the sound as much as the driver tubes, but the type 2 KT90 Ei tubes were awesome. All gone now from what I understand.

I'm interested, if I get the Valhalla, of the effect of tube rolling.

Significant differences (no output transformers, so you're really hearing "through" the Valhalla). JAN Sylvanias that I like in my SFS-40 did not bring smiles in my Valhalla setup; forward and edgy. Have tried several others, but I'm back to Russkie 6n1p tubes, either some 1960s I got from Mr Tom or the stockers. A lot depends on the cans you're driving of course.
post #138 of 563
Sounds like apples and oranges with the sonic frontiers and the Valhalla. Too bad not more of a direct comparison as that was one factor I was looking at as a positive in purchasing the Valhalla.

How are you liking your Valhalla amp?
post #139 of 563
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Originally Posted by Rusty143 View Post

Sounds like apples and oranges with the sonic frontiers and the Valhalla. Too bad not more of a direct comparison as that was one factor I was looking at as a positive in purchasing the Valhalla.

How are you liking your Valhalla amp?

Two years into it, very well. It's in no sense a "soft & round" tube amp, however. It's detailed, fast, and lively, with great texture. Suits my preferences to a "T".
post #140 of 563
Sounds like it has potential! I will keep reading about amps and DACs. Going to have to take the plunge at some point!
post #141 of 563
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Originally Posted by gefski View Post


Two years into it, very well. It's in no sense a "soft & round" tube amp, however. It's detailed, fast, and lively, with great texture. Suits my preferences to a "T".

+1 

This description fit what I heard in the last year. I would also add that is has nice dimensionality.

post #142 of 563
RentWhat do Valhalla owners think about reviews that feel the Asgaard is smoother, more open sound stage and has more midrange presence? Do you think the tubes weren't burnt in? Is the Asagaard a smoother amp? I am looking to match them with the Sen HD 600.
post #143 of 563

I know this doesn't have anything to do with rolling but I will be placing my order for the Valhalla and the Uber Bifrost along with a pair of HD-650s in the next week or so, I CAN'T wait to get my grubby little hands on them.

 

I plan on doing some tube rolling although no right off the bat but I have went over this thread more times than I can count so I have a good idea of what kind of tubes I wanna pick up for it. As you can tell I'm very excited to finally be getting into this, I'm pretty sure I've drove my wife crazy talking to her about it and showing her picture after picture but hey that's the fun in being married.

post #144 of 563
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Originally Posted by Rusty143 View Post

RentWhat do Valhalla owners think about reviews that feel the Asgaard is smoother, more open sound stage and has more midrange presence? Do you think the tubes weren't burnt in? Is the Asagaard a smoother amp? I am looking to match them with the Sen HD 600.

 

Unfortunately I can't compare these as I have the 1st iteration of the Asgard and the first of the Valhalla (not rollable) so my review wouldn't make any sense as the Asgard 2 is a different amp now (much better).

post #145 of 563

I had a question. What do you guys usually use to store your tubes in? I've seen some pretty nifty looking boxes and stuff out there I just didn't know where to get them or if you primarily just keep them in the little cardboard box they originally came in. Thank you

post #146 of 563
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Originally Posted by Themorganlett85 View Post

I had a question. What do you guys usually use to store your tubes in? I've seen some pretty nifty looking boxes and stuff out there I just didn't know where to get them or if you primarily just keep them in the little cardboard box they originally came in. Thank you

Best I've got are a couple boxes for the Schiit Valhalla sets cause they hold 4, snooty Psvane boxes are good, original boxes are OK, especially for larger power tubes, the worst of my mess are baggies with padding.biggrin.gif
post #147 of 563
Can anyone describe the sound if the vallhalla with the stock tubes, after full break-in?
post #148 of 563
Enough is enough. Going to pull the trigger on the Valhalla. What can I look forward to in terms of sonic improvement with my Sen 600s currently played through an iPhone 5? Big difference, subtle difference?
post #149 of 563
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Originally Posted by Rusty143 View Post

Enough is enough. Going to pull the trigger on the Valhalla. What can I look forward to in terms of sonic improvement with my Sen 600s currently played through an iPhone 5? Big difference, subtle difference?

From your phone alone, you should hear a definitive improvement. Will you still feed it from your Iphone? If you want a big improvement, you need to step up your whole chain, with a good DAC too.

post #150 of 563
I have a DAC that I am upgrading to play CDs through. I will still be playing the iPhone straight through the amp. Any suggestions for how to connect the iPhone to the DAC using coaxial? The only real option for doing this is through the Pure i20.
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