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You have my full support! 100% smile.gif
What about doing what soundMAGIC and Vsonic have done with their products. Each item package has a serial number you rub off and enter into their site to check for validation of the product? That could be something to think about in the future for Fiio. I know it helped me feel assured when buying my GRO7.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/616077/dont-buy-any-fiio-product-from-sainstore-on-amazon-and-how-to-distinguish-a-genuine-fiio-e6-from-a-fake-one/180#post_8549197

post #17 of 26

Does anyone happen to know if this is a legitimate product?

 

http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Headphone-Amplifier-Butterfly-MicroFiber/dp/B007FFOKSQ/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1343500955&sr=8-8&keywords=fiio+e6+with+lod

 

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post #18 of 26
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Does anyone happen to know if this is a legitimate product?

 

http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Headphone-Amplifier-Butterfly-MicroFiber/dp/B007FFOKSQ/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1343500955&sr=8-8&keywords=fiio+e6+with+lod

 

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There's no way to tell.

 

You may have been able to combine a deal from an authorized dealer with a L3 for the same price

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B005HJWWW8/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

 

But I don't recommend it, the top seller "amazin deals" and a few other sellers for $20 on this page have been known by FiiO

http://www.head-fi.org/t/616893/black-list-of-unauthorized-retailer-in-us-amazon-updated-on-20-07-2012

 

To be counterfeit sellers(knowingly or unknowingly).

 

If you want the L3 with the E6, the only way to guarantee legitimacy while sitting at your chair right here is to buy authorized.

 

I guess you could call the company and ask...but then again, some companies themselves unknowingly will input goods from another supllier.

 

 

The largest legit distro's of FiiO in the U.S are:

Micca store (Micca distributor on amazon)

Parts Express 

Head Direct (hifi-man on amazon)

 

http://www.head-direct.com/Products/?act=detail&id=114

http://www.miccastore.com/fiio-headphone-amplifier-black-p-66.html

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=230-104

 

and they go for $28 from everyone. Micca has free shipping on all their products and bundles a Y splitter if you buy from them.

 

I hope FiiO doesn't go into MAP like Sennheiser and Grado do..but at this rate, it may be best to go into MAP sadly........ it may take some brand recognition down, but can help fight this problem

 

MAP is where the main company promises only warranty and support to you ONLY if you have bought from their authorized dealers. NExt, it also has that the authorized dealers will carry the same terms and prices to reduce competition amongst themselves. 

As of right now, some of FiiO's authorized dealers offer add ons and free shipping for a price while others don't which increases competition, which in itself I believe is good. But some companies like Sennheiser don't like that.

 

Both systems of MAP or not are beneficial to companies, how a company is standing at the moment should decide.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suggested_retail_price

 

Minimum Advertised Price


Edited by bowei006 - 7/28/12 at 12:25pm
post #19 of 26

Thank you for the clarification :)

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post #21 of 26

I have to say, I think it would be best to publicize this kind of thing; I purchased what I now believe to be a fake E5 from a secondary Amazon seller, and it was total trash; I was set to never buy FiiO again, until I saw all of the rave reviews of the E11. If I knew there were fakes, I would never have been so discouraged, and would have been deliberate about purchasing from an authorized reseller!

post #22 of 26
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Originally Posted by JamesFiiO View Post

 

Thanks for your help and support, Amazon have a very strange policy that people can send the goods to the warehouse of Amazon, and them the fake and genuine will mix together, we just warm our agents/seller don't ship FiiOs to Amazon in 

 

mixed inventories. and it will be more safe to purchase from head-direct.com. miccastore.com. parts-express.com. and other B2C online shop because they will not purchase fake FiiO

 

Could you be a little more clear about this? Does this possible fake stock mix only with other non-Amazon stock? (I'm guessing this is the stock for "Fulfilled by Amazon" orders) Or with Amazon's own stock as well?

post #23 of 26
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I have to say, I think it would be best to publicize this kind of thing; I purchased what I now believe to be a fake E5 from a secondary Amazon seller, and it was total trash; I was set to never buy FiiO again, until I saw all of the rave reviews of the E11. If I knew there were fakes, I would never have been so discouraged, and would have been deliberate about purchasing from an authorized reseller!

 

I think this is the only thing will protect the brand.

 

You probably also need to ban authorised resellers from selling via that problematic Amazon chain and have a list of authorized sellers on your site, together with some sort of watermark sellers  can use on their sites - maybe a link back to your site. although this could be faked fairly well.

post #24 of 26

Yes; apart from everything, I think NOT diffusing the information will result in some customers receiving fake units without having any foreknowledge of the existence of fakes of these products, and will judge the FiiO brand by something that is fake.

 

It's true that wide knowledge of the existence of FiiO fakes could affect resale value, because you can never be sure of the origin of gear you buy directly from  person, which could potentially affect the resale value, and thereby have a minor impact on the perceived value of FiiO products in the eyes of potential first-time buyers, but I think any smart businessman knows that a POTENTIAL risk like that is outweighed by the extant and DIRECT risk of people not getting what they thought they were getting, and being disappointed, thereby making a judgment of the brand; the hifi community is fairly small, so word like that could spread quickly, either on a place like Head-Fi where FiiO is not directly involved, or in the more traditional, localized communities centered around hifi shops.

 

Also remember that most people don't buy with the intent of reselling, anyways, so it's better to have your brand take the hit in resale value, rather than risk widespread misconceptions about the overall quality of FiiO products. I think it's important to consider that FiiO is in the business of making budget amps, which decreases the likelihood of them being resold by or bought from an end user to begin with; on the other hand, if it mistakenly gets out that FiiO products are low quality (which I don't believe they are), they could come to be mistakenly regarded as cheap junk.
 

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I think this is the only thing will protect the brand.

 

You probably also need to ban authorised resellers from selling via that problematic Amazon chain and have a list of authorized sellers on your site, together with some sort of watermark sellers  can use on their sites - maybe a link back to your site. although this could be faked fairly well.


Edited by Gilly87 - 2/28/13 at 10:33am
post #25 of 26

I understand that Fiio isnt an american company. Is there a authorized dealer i can buy from, and if theres a problem theyre able to fix it state side so im not at a loss from long shipping?

 

Last EO9k i got from Amazon stopped working after 20 days. I tried a o2 amp and dont like the sound. I want another EO9k but dont want a fake and need support if something goes wrong.

post #26 of 26
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Originally Posted by BlackThought View Post
 

I understand that Fiio isnt an american company. Is there a authorized dealer i can buy from, and if theres a problem theyre able to fix it state side so im not at a loss from long shipping?

 

Last EO9k i got from Amazon stopped working after 20 days. I tried a o2 amp and dont like the sound. I want another EO9k but dont want a fake and need support if something goes wrong.

Authorised dealers are listed on the Fiio web site: http://www.fiio.com.cn/where/index.aspx

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