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Turns out I got an OK price on 598 so am now qualified to comment on dif between 595 and 598. I also happen to have KSC75 sitting right here beside me too so know for a fact you are FOS.

Anyway, dif between 595 and 598 is a subtle difference and nothing massive so all those claiming 598 are way better than 595 are also FOS598 are slighty better (clearer bass) but not worth the upgrade price if one already owns 595. I shoulda held out for HD650 IMO.

 

I have the HD-555, HD-558 and HD-600.  Oh, along with the HE-400 by HifiMAN.  In regards to the HD-555 / 595, I've found that they respond a bit nicely when some small mods are performed.  Instead of performing the full HD-555 to HD-595 mod by removing the foam, I replaced it with a smaller piece of square craft felt with an adhesive back.  The oval ring that the driver baffle screws into was dampened a bit by using new Newplast which provides a bit of damping to tighten the bass a bit.  I'd be interested in seeing how close a modified HD-555 comes to the HD-598.  I would have bought the HD-598 the other night instead of the HD-558, but I also had my new HD-600s awaiting me at home on Friday, so dropping another $70.00 didn't seem like the best move for me at the moment.

 

There are many merits of the HD-555 / 595 that should not be overlooked.  They are still a good "all-around" performer and are comfortable headphones.  I paid $30.00 for my HD-555 used on Craigslist a few weeks back. 

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Did someone shoot you in the middle of that post?  tongue.gif

hahah no, my 2 yr old hit submit

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I sometimes get the feeling here that most Submit buttons are hit by 2 yr olds.  tongue.gif

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I have the HD-555, HD-558 and HD-600.  Oh, along with the HE-400 by HifiMAN ....... 

 

Sorry - prewarning - going OT ....

 

Hi Wayne - hope everything going well with you and yours.  After you've had enough time to get used to the HD600, can you shoot me your impressions of the HD600 and HE-400?  I trust your judgement - and so far whenever the topics come up regarding comparisons between either the HD600 or DT880 and the HE-400, it's generally degenerated into one or two HE-400 fan-boys drowning out everyone else.  If you can spare the time - I'd really like to know your thoughts.

 

Thanks.

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I sometimes get the feeling here that most Submit buttons are hit by 2 yr olds.  tongue.gif

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The 990 lacks bass? Wow.

 

While the graph is a good prop to back up a discussion point, I think we've all started to realize that graphs don't always equal a good listening experience. I've been burned too many times by just over-analyzing graphs.

 

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can you shoot me your impressions of the HD600 and HE-400?  I trust your judgement - and so far whenever the topics come up regarding comparisons between either the HD600 or DT880 and the HE-400, it's generally degenerated into one or two HE-400 fan-boys drowning out everyone else.  If you can spare the time - I'd really like to know your thoughts.

 

Yes, I'll be glad to share some points with you in the next day or so.  It's too bad that there are times when others can get over-zealous, and over-bearing because they have "collateral" in their own headphones.  

 

I always like to think that all headphones are good.  The question then is, is the headphone good enough for me to keep.  wink.gif

post #67 of 82

Nevertheless I'd be surprised if many would agree the 990 lacks bass.

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Nevertheless I'd be surprised if many would agree the 990 lacks bass.

 

It's all subjective.  Whether 10% or 90% agree that the Beyerdynamic 990 has great bass, it's still only the person's opinion as to whether "they" would like the headphones or not.  There are plenty of headphones that I've tried which have great bass, but I'd never buy any of them.  Why, you ask?  Because, while the bass may have been quite good, there were other issues that took away from an enjoyable listening experience.  It may have been other frequency issues, or it may have even been comfort.  See?  We're all different.  We hear different.  We experience comfort differently and we all listen to many varieties of music.

 

I'm not picking on the Beyerdynamic 990.  However, I am responding to your recent comment on the bass which was interjected into this thread.  It's actually pretty amazing that the thread started off as a Sennheiser HD-598 thread, but was derailed quickly as so many other headphones were talked about.


Edited by wje - 1/28/13 at 1:19am
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I'm not picking on the Beyerdynamic 990.  However, I am responding to your recent comment on the bass which was interjected into this thread. 

 

Now you're picking on me---like a 600 lb gorilla with headphones on. biggrin.gif

 

post #70 of 82

Not after the pricefix, no. Not at $250.

I got them back when they hovered around $170, a much more fitting price.

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Not after the pricefix, no. Not at $250.


I got them back when they hovered around $170, a much more fitting price.

Even with Sennheiser's MAP they have still been going for $205 on amazon for a while. I bought the 595's about a year and a half ago for $150 and just recently sent them back to senn because the headband crack was getting really bad. They sent me a pair of manufacturer refurbished 598's but I think they are still great headphones for $205. I don't think I would be disappointed if I had bought them new for $205.
Edited by Dillont3 - 1/28/13 at 7:40pm
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Now you're picking on me---like a 600 lb gorilla with headphones on. biggrin.gif

 

 

 

Whoa, I've never seen such a large picture of myself.  I need to do something with those wrinkles under my eyes.  biggrin.gif

post #73 of 82
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 I don't think I would be disappointed if I had bought them new for $205.

 

Or even $210, eh? You old spendthrift, you.

 

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Whoa, I've never seen such a large picture of myself.  I need to do something with those wrinkles under my eyes.  biggrin.gif

 

Don't worry, you look lovely to me. wink.gif

post #74 of 82

I've read that using a better cable than the one provided by Sennheiser makes a world of difference.

I'm a musician and have got 3-4 Monster Cables from Guitar Center.

Would one of these suffice, or would you guys recommend something else?

 

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nvm, the 2 ends of the cable are different sizes.


Edited by chimmycham - 2/2/13 at 7:25pm
post #75 of 82
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I've read that using a better cable than the one provided by Sennheiser makes a world of difference.

I'm a musician and have got 3-4 Monster Cables from Guitar Center.

Would one of these suffice, or would you guys recommend something else?

 

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nvm, the 2 ends of the cable are different sizes.

 

I haven't personally checked out the conductors of the "5" and "6" series of Sennheiser headphones, but I have with their "4" series.  Once you get through the rubber insulation, their gauge of wire used is about as thick as a piece of thread.  They then coat the strands in some sort of colored resin to provide some thin insulation over the conductors, and for the assembly process to move along quicker so that the correct polarity (as indicated by color of coated strand) can be soldered to the right connection within the cup.  I can't imagine the "5" and "6" series being too much greater.  In going from the standard cable to a custom or semi-custom one, you can have some more flexibility on length as opposed to just accepting the standard length.  But, when going with a different cable, it also might be wise to re-wire the internals of the headphones all the way to the drivers.  If you are moving to a better cable, it's better to resolve any choke points inside the cups, too.

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