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post #46 of 79
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Originally Posted by Rath1on View Post

If I were Zimmer, I would be furious at such a thing. The whole excess gain ordeal confuses me across all genres. I just don't see the artists wanting such a thing to happen.

 

 

He`s just getting the money man, 

Most of bands don`t care of mastering, louder is better, as most people listen to laptops or ipods with cheap earbuds, 

the sad fact is that even mp3 players and smartphones are becoming audiophile devices, so there`s no need for such compression anyway..

 

on the other hand a bad master now, would make a remaster sell again..bigsmile_face.gif


Edited by sonci - 7/30/12 at 12:38pm
post #47 of 79
I can almost understand the loudness wars for pop music recordings - when everyone else songs getting radio airtime will be playing a few db's louder (not that that is an acceptable excuse)... But on a film soundtrack? Why do you need a 'hot' master for that?
post #48 of 79
That's why I'm confuzled. Inception sound track had bad clipping DK, DKR..
What has the world come to when even classical music is subject to poor mainstream music practices? frown.gif

WHY CAN'T WE JUST HAVE NICE THINGS
Edited by Rath1on - 7/30/12 at 6:22am
post #49 of 79
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Originally Posted by Rath1on View Post

That's why I'm confuzled. Inception sound track had bad clipping DK, DKR..
What has the world come to when even classical music is subject to poor mainstream music practices? frown.gif
WHY CAN'T WE JUST HAVE NICE THINGS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXLDv-fUINM

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post #51 of 79

No wonder I was hearing so much clipping, I initially thought i did a bad rip.

post #52 of 79

To make matters worse, they also brickwalled/clipped the crap out of the 24/192 versions at HD Tracks as well.

 

Track 3 - Gotham's Reckoning

 

1000

 

 

When the hell is HD Tracks going to wise up and set some standards?

 

-Ed

 


Edited by Edwood - 8/13/12 at 11:59pm
post #53 of 79
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To make matters worse, they also brickwalled/clipped the crap out of the 24/192 versions at HD Tracks as well.

 

Track 3 - Gotham's Reckoning

 

1000

 

 

When the hell is HD Tracks going to wise up and set some standards?

 

-Ed

 


When they decide to hire someone like me....tongue.gif

post #54 of 79
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Originally Posted by LFF View Post

When they decide to hire someone like me....tongue.gif

 

Quick, somebody hire this guy! biggrin.gif

 

This thread really bums me out.  I wish I could hear all of the three Batman movies' soundtracks (as well as the Inception soundtrack) mastered properly.  I think that'd be something very special.

post #55 of 79

Yea I've never liked these dark knight traks with part of the reason being down to the mastering. It's obvious really on this ost- I didn't even bother to open it up on audacity to check but the unclear farty bass is just too obvious when hearing from any decent pair of headphones. Actually theres plenty more others that hans zimmer has produced that get their volume enchanced in this way, but noticably the original sherlock holmes ost (2009) is actually a pretty clear recording I think. I think it hasn't been treated like the others, which is nice.

My most favourite film OST, the insider (awesome movie btw), is pretty clean too.

 

Funny, I was reading something peculiar on a major UK newspaper website yesterday:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/9462448/The-quest-for-higher-quality-digital-music.html

 

They talk about higher sampling rates giving music more of a dynamic range. Well, for stuff like these ost's whats the point- the base file is a wreck to begin with.

post #56 of 79

These travesties always make me wonder how the mastering engineers feel about all this.  By virtue of being mastering engineers in the first place, they almost have to be nerds who would ordinarily take pride in their work.  Unless they're just that incompetent, or unless they're numb to it all by now, they must really be embarrassed to put their names on masters like this and furious at what their bosses are making them do.  I mean, this is the kind of mastering I'd redo just to post a Youtube video, let alone release a highly anticipated film soundtrack to CD.


Edited by SobbingWallet - 8/16/12 at 12:04pm
post #57 of 79
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Originally Posted by SobbingWallet View Post

These travesties always make me wonder how the mastering engineers feel about all this.  By virtue of being mastering engineers in the first place, they almost have to be nerds who would ordinarily take pride in their work.  Unless they're just that incompetent, or unless they're numb to it all by now, they must really be embarrassed to put their names on masters like this and furious at what their bosses are making them do.  I mean, this is the kind of mastering I'd redo just to post a Youtube video, let alone release a highly anticipated film soundtrack to CD.


For the most part, audio engineers take great pride in their work. However, what we want to release is often very different from what the record label or producer wants released. If you want to get paid, you must do what the record label or producer says. Usually that means noise reduction and levels being jacked up.

 

Some engineers would rather compromise their reputation and work quality for a paycheck than stand up to what is right, let alone even make an attempt at preserving our musical history.

 

It's a sad state of affairs.

post #58 of 79
post #59 of 79

Are the bonus tracks similar in quality ?

post #60 of 79
Thread Starter 

I don't know, and I've not heard anyone comment on them.

 

Mike

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