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My philosophy towards Beats is simple: I've been approached multiple times by Beats wearers who see the variety of headphones I wear out and about, and the type that will approach somebody in a situation like that tends to be antagonistic. I've had only one or two occasions where a Beats wearer was legitimately interested in what I had around my neck. Most of the time I'm attacked and told I should've gotten Beats instead of the sh*t I have. That's one of the two cases I'll give the person a listen to my equipment, the other being if they request to hear it.

 

On other occasions, I let Beats owners enjoy their own cans, because some of them know just how overpriced they are and are simply victims of fashion, and others just enjoy how they sound or have never been exposed to anything better.

 

Also, let's not derail this thread and make it like the old Beats-owner thread. I'm sorry I got sidetracked, but let's keep this on the subject of the lies and distortions that some audio companies employ. Open it up to other manufacturers, perhaps?

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Where can I get this informational packet?
I have no shame in distributing to passerbys.

I used to have it hosted on my computer, but my hard drive decided to kill itself. I do have a few physical copies of it still, but it'd take awhile to re-type it all. Stay posted to this thread, because I'll put it here if I ever get around to it.

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I would post them all around my school, if i had it.

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I would post them all around my school, if i had it.

I won't condone it, but I'll be happy to provide. I could start typing tonight if I didn't feel like sticking to a relatively normal sleep schedule.

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My philosophy towards Beats is simple: I've been approached multiple times by Beats wearers who see the variety of headphones I wear out and about, and the type that will approach somebody in a situation like that tends to be antagonistic. I've had only one or two occasions where a Beats wearer was legitimately interested in what I had around my neck. Most of the time I'm attacked and told I should've gotten Beats instead of the sh*t I have. That's one of the two cases I'll give the person a listen to my equipment, the other being if they request to hear it.

 

On other occasions, I let Beats owners enjoy their own cans, because some of them know just how overpriced they are and are simply victims of fashion, and others just enjoy how they sound or have never been exposed to anything better.

 

Also, let's not derail this thread and make it like the old Beats-owner thread. I'm sorry I got sidetracked, but let's keep this on the subject of the lies and distortions that some audio companies employ. Open it up to other manufacturers, perhaps?


That sucks but just because SOME people attack you for not owning Beats,Don't attack people for owning Beats i know you havn't im just saying to all people.If you get what i mean.

Plus im a headphone collector so i collect all types of Headphones

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That sucks but just because SOME people attack you for not owning Beats,Don't attack people for owning Beats i know you havn't im just saying to all people.If you get what i mean.

Plus im a headphone collector so i collect all types of Headphones

Yeah, the kind of attitude of first attack is something that was oft-discussed on the now-closed Beats owner thread. I do occasionally advocate to those who are looking to buy headphones and don't even try to consider anything but what's at Best Buy, but beyond that I don't start conversations.

post #37 of 433

People aren't ridiculing Beats or Beats owners for their fashion choices - they're ridiculing them for their insistence that Beats represent 'audiophile sound'.  It's not an economic snobbery thing (Beats Beaters can be had far below Beats prices).  

 

Would you go into a Russian neighborhood professing to know all about Russian culture based on Bond films?  That's the equivalent of what Beats proselytizers do.  It makes them look and sound stupid and  *shocker*  people have the audacity to call them stupid.

 

I'm sorry but no - Head-Fi is an audiophile hangout - you don't have to have the best, you just have to aspire to know a little more about the subject than some ad copy written on a box.  If you read said ad copy, think you know all there is about headphone audiophilia, and then march into Head-Fi without being willing to learn something - you deserve the scorn that will surely be heaped upon you.  This place is a treasured resource of knowledgeable people, experienced enthusiasts, and generous souls willing to share not only their knowledge, but oftentimes their very expensive equipment, in order to introduce to others the joy that can be had in this hobby.

 

'Audiophile' actually means something and there's nothing wrong with acknowledging that it actually means something.

 

/lecture

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People aren't ridiculing Beats or Beats owners for their fashion choices - they're ridiculing them for their insistence that Beats represent 'audiophile sound'.  It's not an economic snobbery thing (Beats Beaters can be had far below Beats prices).  

 

Would you go into a Russian neighborhood professing to know all about Russian culture based on Bond films?  That's the equivalent of what Beats proselytizers do.  It makes them look and sound stupid and  *shocker*  people have the audacity to call them stupid.

 

I'm sorry but no - Head-Fi is an audiophile hangout - you don't have to have the best, you just have to aspire to know a little more about the subject than some ad copy written on a box.  If you read said ad copy, think you know all there is about headphone audiophilia, and then march into Head-Fi without being willing to learn something - you deserve the scorn that will surely be heaped upon you.  This place is a treasured resource of knowledgeable people, experienced enthusiasts, and generous souls willing to share not only their knowledge, but oftentimes their very expensive equipment, in order to introduce to others the joy that can be had in this hobby.

 

'Audiophile' actually means something and there's nothing wrong with acknowledging that it actually means something.

 

/lecture


So you are saying its ok to Bash(Scorn) people just because they may not know something lol ok thats fine.

but threads like this will always turn crazy.


Edited by Bradsnake412 - 7/22/12 at 2:49am
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So you are saying its ok to Bash people ok thats fine.

You call it 'bashing', I call it educating the thick-headed.  Po-ta-to, Po-ta-tah.

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You call it 'bashing', I call it educating the thick-headed.  Po-ta-to, Po-ta-tah.


i see what kind of person you are then.

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i see what kind of person you are then.

You don't see the irony of projecting yourself as superior than someone else you view to be projecting himself as superior for different reasons?

 

Beats owners are frequently ignorant of the audiophile headphone hobby.  I wouldn't bash anyone for buying into the Beats marketing having never heard anything else or any other opinions on the matter.  I will heartily bash a Beats owner who insists on believing the marketing copy over their own ears and yet still insisting that they care about sound.

 

How about we just agree that I'm a Very Bad Person (tm)?

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You don't see the irony of projecting yourself as superior than someone else you view to be projecting himself as superior for different reasons?

 

Beats owners are frequently ignorant of the audiophile headphone hobby.  I wouldn't bash anyone for buying into the Beats marketing having never heard anything else or any other opinions on the matter.  I will heartily bash a Beats owner who insists on believing the marketing copy over their own ears and yet still insisting that they care about sound.

 

How about we just agree that I'm a Very Bad Person (tm)?

I do the same. My friend bought a pair of pros full price (MSRP) and I asked him why he got them he said" Because they sound they best, dumbass." I told him that for 400$ you can headphones that surpass beats in sound quality, for almost half the price. Of course he goes on saying all this stupid stuff about how beats are the best headphones ever, and pretty much what all their ads want you to think. This is what happens to me when I try to tell them the facts, and when i offer them to listen to my hd558, they want no part in it. Asking "O i've never heard of Sennheiser, so that means they must suck!" Now they just piss me off.

post #43 of 433

Seriously though although that is quite comical surely what they are doing is false advertising and illegal?

 

You would think that this should be illegal but it seems the government etc. turn a blind eye to this sort of thing in the name of capitalism.

 

I think beats really are a prime showcase of the sheer stupidity of a lot of people and the level at which they blindly fall for blatant advertising tactics. It is actually quite scary how they fall for this stuff, says a lot.


Edited by nicholars - 7/22/12 at 7:54am
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Seriously though although that is quite comical surely what they are doing is false advertising and illegal?

 

You would think that this should be illegal but it seems the government etc. turn a blind eye to this sort of thing in the name of capitalism.

Well....except for the gorillas in the room like Apple.  Apple's been taken to task for 'distortions' that are much more debatably 'inaccurate' than the blatant un-truths and claims of magic made on the back of this Beats packaging.

post #45 of 433

It goes on a lot with loads of different products but they seem to get away with it. Clearly the government or similar agencies are just too lazy to bother with trivial things like this.

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