Originally Posted by SkitZ0
Considering that I'm also a Head-Fi member, I would be, too lol.
I remember when I listened to a pair of Studio Beats that a couple of friends have. One of them listened to my headphones on his iPod Touch (which has no EQ) and told me "I don't like the bass". Which is funny because on my iPod Classic (Acoustics EQ) my Ultrasone DJ-1 kick harder than the Studios. When I listened to my other friend's set of cans, I noticed that they were really muddy, and also didn't kick as hard as my headphones on my laptop, to which he could only say "Noooooo! Nooooooo! No way". I guess he doesn't want to believe he spent $300 on mud lol.
Even more ironic is the fact my laptop has "Beats Audio". I don't mind it because EVERYTHING I hear is EQ'd, unlike Macs, but I've started to notice that the audio is also a bit muddy.
It's likely that their exposure to audio is X, and they consider X to be what sounds "right" or "good" - it's all relative though. I think the HFI-2400 is a muddy mess and that most Ultrasones are boomy, but that's relative to something else. Other people won't have that frame of reference, or feel the same way. Again, highly relative. I don't think he's trying to lie to you, nor do I think he's a "lost cause" (he is your friend, after all, right?) - it's simply different frames of reference. If you listened to his headphones 24x7 and not yours, eventually you would acclimate to them, and they would be "normative" to you, and other headphones would seem "off" by comparison. The current trend in modern audio devices is to bump the mid-bass up (and it doesn't have to be "muddy" by definition, it's just that generally speaking humped-up mid-bass sounds wooly/muddy), almost as if "they" are trying to fly in the face of audiophile hi-fi sound signatures (which are normally relatively thin and bright by comparison and can sound etched or harsh - neither of these signatures is really accurate or "flat" and by no means is one "right" or "wrong.").
Originally Posted by ssrock64
To get the thread back on track for the third or fourth time in as many pages, here's quote from Pioneer's page for the HDJ-1500:
Apparently the design of their bass port also magically isolates...
This would easily enough debunked or verified with measurements. Unfortunately I can find none for the HDJ-1500. I don't fully understand what Pioneer is attempting to say in that blurb, but it's plausible - again, up to measurements to verify. The real question is, how good or bad was the previous model?
I mean, for all we know, the previous model actually amplified noise at those frequencies, and they're just getting it leveled off now...or it now provides a maximum of 4 dB of isolation there (which is essentially insignificant), etc etc. That's where it's dubious imo.