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Poll Results: What do you think of amp recommendations in general?

 
  • 12% (17)
    Disgustingly not thought out, just recommended from the single amp they have tried
  • 13% (19)
    Poorly thought out, mostly blind brand loyalty
  • 41% (57)
    50/50, a lot of zealots but about the same number of helpful recommendations
  • 11% (16)
    Mostly people here know what they are saying
  • 15% (21)
    WiR3D is a zealot.
  • 6% (9)
    I disagree with you most things, people can recommend from there own experience, even if it is just the one amp that they own.
139 Total Votes  
post #91 of 431
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Originally Posted by blueaoki View Post

I recently purchased a Denon D7000 and I am satisfied how it sounds with my Yulong D100 (Mrk. I). Last week I borrowed a Lake People G100 from the head-fi member Anda and it lifted the level of the music. I am not saying that the difference was like night and day, but there was more clarity in the music and I found it easier to identify the different instruments. The biggest difference was the sub-bass that was much more controlled with the G100. The bass with the D7000/Yulong combo can be a bit blurry, although it still sounds fine.

 

The only issue with the G100 was occasionally sibilance but this might be caused by the combination Lake People G100, Yulong D100 and the source material. I did not really notice sibilance the first three or four days so the problem was not serious.

 

Within two or three months I will have the opportunity to try the Violectric V200 on a loan tour. I am sure it will be an even bigger upgrade.

 

The cost of an amp is a serious consideration for me, so the amp that I might end up buying is the Yulong A100 based on the review of it by Project86. I have listened to several things that he has reviewed, and I mostly agree with his assessments. Project86 wrote in his review: That combo(Yulong D100 and Yulong A100) plus a used Denon D7000 …… make a good argument for ending the cycle of side-grades and upgrades and just enjoying the music, all at a relatively bargain price. I would like to listen to A100 before ordering it, but that will probably not be possible in Denmark.

THANK YOU! 

 

Some good information there, I am curious about the difference from D100 to D100+A100.

 

The D7000 can be a little sibilant for me, so I think thats expected. The G100 was not something I heard of before, but I came across it a few times last week. So on the list it goes. 

 

WA6SE is OTC which means its in grey territory but Sonically the sound signatures are a perfect match from the few trustworthy peoples opinions I have read.

The WA6 on the other hand... I need more info. 

post #92 of 431
Thread Starter 

Craaaaaaaaaapppppp.... just discovered Thomann.de stocks Lake people and I was planning on ordering from them next month. 

 

I suspect actually all of Lake peoples / Violectrics stuff will suit the Denons. 

post #93 of 431
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Originally Posted by ZenErik View Post

Grace m903:

 

I cannot do a short comparison to other gear because I've already sold it all. But I would expect Denon headphones to do quite well with some of my previous amps but not as good with the WA-6 and the SPL Auditor. The SPL Auditor was very noisy with my A-T headphones. It is optimized for high impedance headphones like the HD800 and T1.

It kinda sucks, would like to have concrete evidence it doesn't work. But then again the lack of any possible kind of substantiating evidence (from a trusted head-fier) to say the Auditor does work with the Denons does not exist, unless someone feels like proving me wrong.

 

EDIT: and been doing some digging and a few trustworthy people recommend against it, and so does the specs, and even the design goal. So on the not recommended list it goes.


Edited by WiR3D - 8/23/12 at 6:47am
post #94 of 431

TOTL amps for Denons

 

what does TOTL mean??
 

post #95 of 431
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Originally Posted by WiR3D View Post

ST and STX will be the same issues. They will power them fine, but when you notice bloated bass response, know its not just the headphone.

Some people think the denon's bass is "bloated" as it is, though I hate that term. I highly doubt when I hook them up i'm going to notice the low-end like that.

 

 

Also I assume it would be okay to change the impedance level on the card to up the gain on the denons?


Edited by RushNerd - 8/23/12 at 4:09pm
post #96 of 431
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Originally Posted by RushNerd View Post

Some people think the denon's bass is "bloated" as it is, though I hate that term. I highly doubt when I hook them up i'm going to notice the low-end like that.

 

Also I assume it would be okay to change the impedance level on the card to up the gain on the denons?

Denons have emphasized bass - maybe a little bloated IME, but what I am trying to say is you lose a lot of its response and sounds even more bloated (a distinction from emphasized in the sense of the loss of quality and its there when its NOT needed in contrast to normally) but more importantly it sounds sloppy. 

 

The gain switch just changes the output power, it doesn't change the output impedance on the headphone jack, that you can't fix. I used an impedance adapter, but I took it one step too far and doubled up the power going on the negative rail and fried my TI hp-amp on the card, going to get my replacement soon.

 

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Originally Posted by jamess71 View Post

TOTL amps for Denons

 

what does TOTL mean??

Top-of-the-line

I picked them for the added "wow" factor and for particular sound signatures. Many of the others qualify aswell, but those are the ones I am sure of.

post #97 of 431

wait a sec.. isn't the matrix m stage 30-600ohm impedances? isn't that too high for the denons?

post #98 of 431
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Originally Posted by angelsblood View Post

wait a sec.. isn't the matrix m stage 30-600ohm impedances? isn't that too high for the denons?

Your misunderstanding output impedance. Output impedance is the impedance measured on the jack due to the internal circuitry, not the recommended headphone impedance.

post #99 of 431

What's everyone's take on the Asgard? From everything I can gather, it seems like a great pair for the d5k's. I just hope it blows away my Essense ST amp, or else it will be a waste.

post #100 of 431
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Originally Posted by WiR3D View Post

Your misunderstanding output impedance. Output impedance is the impedance measured on the jack due to the internal circuitry, not the recommended headphone impedance.

 

i see i see. 

 

bump for the asgard. i want to know too. i am considering either the asgard or the yulong a18 for my d5k

post #101 of 431
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Originally Posted by angelsblood View Post

 

i see i see. 

 

bump for the asgard. i want to know too. i am considering either the asgard or the yulong a18 for my d5k

Both are on the list, both have researched by me and work well :) the Yulong top end products are all designed by Yulong to have a very analogue sound, which is what makes it stand out: A solid state with all the detail and specs of a solid state and the sound of vinyl - go figure. 

 

The Asgard is bang for buck, many have and still enjoy it with the Denons, but its not "wow" level, well its wow in its price anyway. 

post #102 of 431

Ouch. Well I got the Asgard anyway. I'll be the judge of this "wow"

post #103 of 431
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Originally Posted by RushNerd View Post

Ouch. Well I got the Asgard anyway. I'll be the judge of this "wow"

thats the point :) 

post #104 of 431

I thought strictly speaking the Asgard doesn't have a very low output impedance too, or am I wrong? I don't have figures in my head (and am too bored to google it out)

post #105 of 431
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Originally Posted by WiR3D View Post

Both are on the list, both have researched by me and work well :) the Yulong top end products are all designed by Yulong to have a very analogue sound, which is what makes it stand out: A solid state with all the detail and specs of a solid state and the sound of vinyl - go figure. 

 

The Asgard is bang for buck, many have and still enjoy it with the Denons, but its not "wow" level, well its wow in its price anyway. 

 

ahh ok, thanks for the clarification. hmmm then i think i'll go for the a18. i live in the uk, so i can only get it from a unknown dealer on ebay! 

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