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Poll Results: What do you think of amp recommendations in general?

 
  • 12% (17)
    Disgustingly not thought out, just recommended from the single amp they have tried
  • 13% (19)
    Poorly thought out, mostly blind brand loyalty
  • 41% (57)
    50/50, a lot of zealots but about the same number of helpful recommendations
  • 11% (16)
    Mostly people here know what they are saying
  • 15% (21)
    WiR3D is a zealot.
  • 6% (9)
    I disagree with you most things, people can recommend from there own experience, even if it is just the one amp that they own.
139 Total Votes  
post #361 of 431
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Originally Posted by rpgman1 View Post

People said avoid the Schitt Mjolnir since Mjolnir's high power output is overkill for such sensitive headphones and may actually introduce noise or other sonic flaws, not to mention the danger of damaging those expensive cans. Do yourself a favor and look for something else.

However you can add these amps to the list:

 

Burson Soloist

Bryston BHA-1

Used HeadAmp GS-X

Used Cavalli Liquid Fire

I'm still looking for a good amp to pair the TH-900. I chose the Matrix X-Sabre as my DAC.

 

My impression after reading about the Bryston BHA-1 is that it has very high gain which seems to be a general problem with it for people listening at moderate levels with for example Sennheiser HD 800. I would assume this problem would be even worse with rather sensitive headphones like Denon AH-D7000.

post #362 of 431

Anyone pairing their Denons with Shiit Magni amp?

Or Magni&Modi stack for that matter?

Cheers

post #363 of 431
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Originally Posted by willmax View Post

Anyone pairing their Denons with Shiit Magni amp?

Or Magni&Modi stack for that matter?

Cheers


I would assume it sounds fine, although I found the Magni amp to be slightly bright so I don't think that would be a very good pairing with the D7000 which already has a hot treble.

post #364 of 431
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Originally Posted by CDWMcInSpots View Post

 

My impression after reading about the Bryston BHA-1 is that it has very high gain which seems to be a general problem with it for people listening at moderate levels with for example Sennheiser HD 800. I would assume this problem would be even worse with rather sensitive headphones like Denon AH-D7000.


The output impedance is 2 ohm, which sound be fine with the D7000 and TH-900. Also, there is a gain switch for high and low so obviously you would use the low setting for something like the D7000 etc. I've heard the combo (BHA-1 and D7000) and it isn't bad. It was a lot better than some amps I've heard with them. It may not be the best combination, but for an amp that plays nice with the Denon, Fostex, and any other headphones you have, it is a pretty good all-arounder.


Edited by Greed - 3/26/13 at 12:34pm
post #365 of 431

I heard that someone uses the DNA Stratus and Decware Zen Taboo Mk III on the TH-900 headphones just fine.

post #366 of 431

A little late to the party but my e17 and e11 actually work pretty well with my D5k's and I can second that the e9k is not a very good amp for the Denon's. I love it for different headphones that I own but paring it with the Denon's has never given me good results. 

 

 

 

Warning: Denon D5k Fiio E11 and 5th Gen iPod Video (Click to show)

post #367 of 431
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Originally Posted by Greed View Post

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Originally Posted by CDWMcInSpots View Post

 

My impression after reading about the Bryston BHA-1 is that it has very high gain which seems to be a general problem with it for people listening at moderate levels with for example Sennheiser HD 800. I would assume this problem would be even worse with rather sensitive headphones like Denon AH-D7000.


The output impedance is 2 ohm, which sound be fine with the D7000 and TH-900. Also, there is a gain switch for high and low so obviously you would use the low setting for something like the D7000 etc. I've heard the combo (BHA-1 and D7000) and it isn't bad. It was a lot better than some amps I've heard with them. It may not be the best combination, but for an amp that plays nice with the Denon, Fostex, and any other headphones you have, it is a pretty good all-arounder.

 

I know about the gain switch, but quiet a few have written that the low gain isn't really low. Quiet the contrary, it's more like high and higher. The same people wanted either a third lower gain step or lowering the gain of at least the low step, possibly both.

 

By the way, low output impedance isn't the only prerequisite for a good match. A suitable gain level is another, and enough power a third. Power is normally not a problem with the sensitive Denon AH-D7000 though.


Edited by CDWMcInSpots - 3/27/13 at 2:43am
post #368 of 431

OP can add the GS-X mk2 to the list.  This is a great amp for all headphones..

post #369 of 431
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

OP can add the GS-X mk2 to the list.  This is a great amp for all headphones..

Are we suggesting any good quality amp (that we feel works with anything) or amps that we know work with these headphones (either through direct or indirect experience)? If it's the latter, this thread really doesn't have nearly as much value. I could name 3 high end amps off the top of my head that would probably sound great with them, but that's not really the point is it? Or is it? I could be misunderstanding the purpose of this thread... 


Edited by bareyb - 3/27/13 at 7:53pm
post #370 of 431
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Originally Posted by bareyb View Post

Are we suggesting any good quality amp (that we feel works with anything) or amps that we know work with these headphones (either through direct or indirect experience)? If it's the latter, this thread really doesn't have nearly as much value. I could name 3 high end amps off the top of my head that would probably sound great with them, but that's not really the point is it? Or is it? I could be misunderstanding the purpose of this thread... 

 

My suggestions are coming from my experiences with the Denon D7000 and the Fostex TH-900 both paired with the GS-X mk2.  

 

This is the amp recommendations for Fostex/Denon headphones - correct?  Well, this amp is my recommendation.  

 

Me saying this is a great amp for all headphones is just tribute to how versatile the amp is - because it also works great with the HD800s.

 

I don't understand the purpose of your post.  Being as though you quoted my post.

post #371 of 431
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Originally Posted by bareyb View Post
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

OP can add the GS-X mk2 to the list.  This is a great amp for all headphones..

Are we suggesting any good quality amp (that we feel works with anything) or amps that we know work with these headphones (either through direct or indirect experience)? If it's the latter, this thread really doesn't have nearly as much value. I could name 3 high end amps off the top of my head that would probably sound great with them, but that's not really the point is it? Or is it? I could be misunderstanding the purpose of this thread... 

 

I believe we are only going to write about combinations we actually have tried, or refer to posts etc. from other people who have tried the combinations.

 

Thread starter has explicitly or at least implicitly stated this. There's a section in the first post about amplifiers that should work according to the specifications, but doesn't according to real life observations.

 

Unfortunately the thread starter hasn't been active in this thread for good while, and haven't updated the lists in the first post based on new information. Some of the information and recommendations in the first post breaks the rules set in the same post and the general impedance matching rules. This may be OK, but then one would at least expect an explicit comment about this á la "This works well according to ... even though it breaks the following rules ...".


Edited by CDWMcInSpots - 3/28/13 at 4:50am
post #372 of 431
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
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Originally Posted by bareyb View Post

 

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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

OP can add the GS-X mk2 to the list.  This is a great amp for all headphones..

 

Are we suggesting any good quality amp (that we feel works with anything) or amps that we know work with these headphones (either through direct or indirect experience)? If it's the latter, this thread really doesn't have nearly as much value. I could name 3 high end amps off the top of my head that would probably sound great with them, but that's not really the point is it? Or is it? I could be misunderstanding the purpose of this thread... 

 

My suggestions are coming from my experiences with the Denon D7000 and the Fostex TH-900 both paired with the GS-X mk2.  

 

This is the amp recommendations for Fostex/Denon headphones - correct?  Well, this amp is my recommendation.  

 

Me saying this is a great amp for all headphones is just tribute to how versatile the amp is - because it also works great with the HD800s.

 

I don't understand the purpose of your post.  Being as though you quoted my post.

 

Your first post didn't say anything about which of the thread headphones you have tried the amplifier with. You corrected this in the second post.

 

bareyb's reaction and questions was fair and understandable since you didn't give necessary context information in your first post.

post #373 of 431
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Originally Posted by CDWMcInSpots View Post

 

Your first post didn't say anything about which of the thread headphones you have tried the amplifier with. You corrected this in the second post.

 

bareyb's reaction and questions was fair and understandable since you didn't give necessary context information in your first post.

 

I didn't have to.  Like I said before.  The title of this thread speaks for it self. 

[LIST][OPINION] Amp recommendations for Fostex/Denon Headphones.

 It seems like people ignore the thread title for some reason.  Also if you or any one else were to look back.  I contributed with recommendation on other amps as well.

 

Besides bareyb have exchanges conversations in the TH-900 thread about the TH-900 and the D7000 so yes again I didn't get the purpose of his post.


Edited by preproman - 3/28/13 at 5:07am
post #374 of 431

I've been following this thread from day 1 and when Wir3d was active in it he would place anyone's recommendation of an amp not already on the recommended or not recommended list in the "tentative" list until it had gotten some thumbs up from others that had heard the combination.  As for the contradictory recommendations, these are explained at the bottom of the first post via spoilers under the "advanced stuff" section.  Here you can find some great technical explanations from songmics about why elictrical dampening via output impedance isn't always the most important factor in determining if an amp will sound good with Denon/Fostex or not.

post #375 of 431
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

My suggestions are coming from my experiences with the Denon D7000 and the Fostex TH-900 both paired with the GS-X mk2.  

 

This is the amp recommendations for Fostex/Denon headphones - correct?  Well, this amp is my recommendation.  

 

Me saying this is a great amp for all headphones is just tribute to how versatile the amp is - because it also works great with the HD800s.

 

I don't understand the purpose of your post.  Being as though you quoted my post.

Okay, well you didn't say that in your post. It was my impression reading some of your other posts around here that you prefer people to recommend equipment that they know from personal experience works well with a particular headphone or amp etc. and not just to blanket endorse the products that they own (and can't return due to the no return policy).  

 

Just wanted to clarify that's what we are doing in this thread as well. I'm personally very interested as I have a set of Th-900s on the way. I wanted to make sure these were solid recommendations from personal experience and not just people posting suggestions for Amps they happen to own and like. If the latter were true, I'd have to take most of the suggestions with a huge grain of salt. That's was the purpose of my post. smile.gif


Edited by bareyb - 3/28/13 at 12:25pm
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