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Just ordered some large ortofon tips and some sennheiser double flanges. Hopefully they'll provide a better fit than the Auvios, which aren't aren't bad but not quite perfect for me. Stock tips don't fit very well at all. :/
post #632 of 839
Give it sometimes with the Ortofon tips. Out of the box they might not feel comfortable or provides a good seal, but after they are "seasoned" already, they are uber comfortable tongue.gif
During the 1st week of using Ortofon, I keep on wanting to switch back to V-moda tips which are softer and more comfortable, but after 3-4 weeks with it, they just get better
Edited by akhyar - 7/29/13 at 3:59pm
post #633 of 839
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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post

 

That's a really difficult question to answer, given that people hear somewhat differently. I'll try to explain the differences between them a bit further and then give my personal opinion. 

 

First, I recommend checking out Rin's measurements of the F111 and W2. Bass is similar, except for the W2 has a very noticeable amount more in comparison to the mids and treble. See that dip starting at 2kHz and going to ~4-5kHz on the W2? That's pretty important for mids. The vocals produced by the F111 sound much more forward and detailed and less dark to my ears than the W2. 

 

For treble they look and sound somewhat similar, although the W2 looks more extended. When listening to the W2, however, the extra extension isn't very obvious. I would probably still eq everything above 9kHz, just like I do on the F111.

 

Now, for me personally, the mids are the most important part of the FR. And in my opinion the mids of the F111 are much much better than the mids of the W2. In fact, I haven't heard anything with mids as good as the F111, except the ER4S (which I think might be too much of a change for you). F111 mids are more accurate in every way to me. Timbre, tonality etc. People do hear mids differently, but the F111's mids should sound quite accurate to the average ear. This is where graphs come in handy imo, because you can learn how you hear compared to an objective standard. For example, one could prefer something warmer than diffuse field standard, and use that to make judgements about future purchases. I know about my own listening preferences that I enjoy mids that adhere closely to a DF standard. So I look for that, and available measurements can show me options within my preference for that.

 

Moving on, the bass is tighter on the F111, and won't sound as prominent as on the W2, so if you want more emphasis the F111 won't give you that. Tighter bass in this case translates to better detail and timbre imo, a definite improvement. As for treble, if you're satisfied with the W2 then I think you'll be satisfied with the F111. They are similar enough to my ears.

 

Overall, I'd say that if you're looking for "magical mids", tighter bass and relaxed treble, then the F111 is for you, and is very much a worthy upgrade from the W2. 

 

Thanks a lot for this, gnarlsagan! beyersmile.png I truly appreciate it. I'm learning a whole lot more about technical terms and graphs thanks to your comment. :)

 

It sounds like the F111 would be perfect for me right now. I'll try to find a way to get one sometime in the near future. Anyone out here looking to sell theirs? lol biggrin.gif

 

By the way, would anyone know where in Tokyo I can get the F111 at a cheaper price? I'm going there on vacation in a few months. 

 

Thanks, guys! 


Edited by frapp2latte - 7/29/13 at 6:54pm
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Hi, I would like to share the joy, I finally got a Shure foam tips in size, they do not come, so I had to change them a bit. The result surprised: there articulate mids, excellent deep as hell bass.

 

 

post #635 of 839
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Originally Posted by IronLung View Post

Hi, I would like to share the joy, I finally got a Shure foam tips in size, they do not come, so I had to change them a bit. The result surprised: there articulate mids, excellent deep as hell bass.

 

 

 

 

How is the F111/AK100 combo? I'm currently running an iMod stack, but curious about the AK100 since it would let me change from a stack to just one device.

post #636 of 839

FitEar F111

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Originally Posted by HeroicPenguin 
How is the F111/AK100 combo? I'm currently running an iMod stack, but curious about the AK100 since it would let me change from a stack to just one device.

I have a moded Ak100 and now when I hsve foam tips I'm completely satisfied. I think without ak100-mod it's sounds much better, more neutral.
post #637 of 839
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I have a moded Ak100 and now when I hsve foam tips I'm completely satisfied. I think without ak100-mod it's sounds much better, more neutral.

Which ak100 mod did you get? I'm curious as to what the output impedance is now. I added a 15ohm resistor to the F111 and it lowered bass below 500Hz by about 5dB, a pretty big change.

You're saying you prefer the non-modded ak100 for the F111?
post #638 of 839

FitEar F111

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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan 
You're saying you prefer the non-modded ak100 for the F111?
Yes I love F111's sound with additional impedance. Modded ak100 has 0ohm on the output so it's too bass for me.
post #639 of 839
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Originally Posted by IronLung View Post

Hi, I would like to share the joy, I finally got a Shure foam tips in size, they do not come, so I had to change them a bit. The result surprised: there articulate mids, excellent deep as hell bass.

 

 

 

Where can I get those tips? They look perfect...

 

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Originally Posted by IronLung View Post


Yes I love F111's sound with additional impedance. Modded ak100 has 0ohm on the output so it's too bass for me.

 

In that case I highly recommend the ER4S if you haven't already tried it, and if you don't have a problem with deep fit. Stock ER4S is very similar to the F111 with additional impedance, only with a bit less sub-bass but much more extended treble. I only say this because the F111 with impedance seemed quite peaky in the treble to me. 


Edited by gnarlsagan - 7/31/13 at 1:39am
post #640 of 839
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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post

 

Where can I get those tips? They look perfect...

 

 

In that case I highly recommend the ER4S if you haven't already tried it, and if you don't have a problem with deep fit. Stock ER4S is very similar to the F111 with additional impedance, only with a bit less sub-bass but much more extended treble. I only say this because the F111 with impedance seemed quite peaky in the treble to me. 

This is Shure black foam M-side from amazon, but you will have to modify it with glue and little silicon pipe from default tips to fit well on your F111.

It is important to cut the tube so that it does not overlap earhones's horn.

 

Once upon a time I had er4s, but had to sell them because of the curves of the ear canals.

I want to try a shure or comply foam tips to ER4s - is it a good idea?


Edited by IronLung - 7/31/13 at 4:18am
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it really depends on the outside temperature. in summer I give up on using comply because they start expending back in position as soon as I release my fingers. so I don't have time to fit deep enough.
 

post #642 of 839

I've been really happy with my DX100/F111 combo but adding a 627X to the mix really took them another level.  My impressions are on the Portaphile thread here:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/648574/portaphile-appreciation-thread/120#post_9668558

post #643 of 839

Am I alone in thinking that, of the various full-size headphones I've heard, the F111 most closely resembles the AKG K501?  It's like FitEar converted that headphone into an IEM, correcting all of its various sonic flaws in the process.  To be sure, the F111 has a far more closed-in sound than the K501.  Still, I find its musical presentation to be remarkably similar to that venerable AKG flagship.

post #644 of 839

Guys I HIGHLY recommend the sennheiser large double flange tips. Super pliable and secure fit for me. The silicone is definitely softer than the Auvio or sony hybrid tips for example, and so it forms to the curve of the ear canal better. A guy is selling them on Ebay here.

post #645 of 839
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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post

Guys I HIGHLY recommend the sennheiser large double flange tips. Super pliable and secure fit for me. The silicone is definitely softer than the Auvio or sony hybrid tips for example, and so it forms to the curve of the ear canal better. A guy is selling them on Ebay here.

Thnx, will get 'em soon.

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