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post #481 of 839
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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post

Measurements are up! No surprises really, although I wish treble was a bit more extended. Bass is more extended compared to the ER4S, and mids are neutral enough. Seems like with iems we have bass, mids, and treble. Pick two lol. 

From the frequency response graph it looks like the F111 lacks the 1khz to 3khz emphasis that the ER4S has. Do you hear that being the case?
post #482 of 839
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Originally Posted by tomscy2000 View Post


Aww. My horn approximations were off because I had to eyeball my measurements...

 

I had long suspected that the F111 did not use any passive components, and was just an ED-29689 with a very nice horn. Interesting that the Suyama measurements showed no 8-9k deficiency, though. I wonder what his insertion standards are.

 

Anyway, this means that the F111 will go well with amps with silly OI like OTL tube amps and the like. I suspected that the F111 would do well with the AK100, for example. I'm still wondering what the AK100-111is does to compensate for the AK100's OI.


What makes you think the F111 has no xo? If my memory serves the ER-4S also has an xo network inside.

post #483 of 839
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From the frequency response graph it looks like the F111 lacks the 1khz to 3khz emphasis that the ER4S has. Do you hear that being the case?

 

Definitely. It sounds pretty much exactly like the graph looks. Vocals are a little warmer and less emphasized. I'd like to spend more time focusing on the treble though.

post #484 of 839

finally stock came in
 

post #485 of 839

What is the difference between the various Fitear cables ?  I am assuming that the 000 would be the stock cable on the F111 and that the other two would be upgrades.  I ask this because i read somewhere that the F111's treble could be lifted a bit with a higher impedance cable. Has anyone experienced this ?

post #486 of 839
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Originally Posted by Sauntere View Post

What is the difference between the various Fitear cables ?  I am assuming that the 000 would be the stock cable on the F111 and that the other two would be upgrades.  I ask this because i read somewhere that the F111's treble could be lifted a bit with a higher impedance cable. Has anyone experienced this ?

 

000 is the best upgrade cable that FitEar offers and most expensive.......

post #487 of 839
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Originally Posted by spkrs01 View Post

 

000 is the best upgrade cable that FitEar offers and most expensive.......

Ok, so that is not the stock cable ??  Any links to the differences between them ?

post #488 of 839
First I own ER4P, then Fitear F111, soon I will purchase Sony MDR EX800ST...
post #489 of 839

I've owned all three cables.  The F111's stock cable is the 003 cable I think.  It's fairly soft and non-microphonic.  I only tested it with the F111s and I thought it was pretty good.  People have reported that they hear an improvement when using the 334's 001 cable.

 

The 334's stock cable is the 001.  It is slightly more rugged than the 003 and has an Oyaide straight connector instead of the 003's right angle connector.  It sounds pretty good but it is slightly microphonic.  I think it makes good compromises between durability, usability, and sound.

 

The special 000 cable is very stiff/durable and microphonic.  If you want the best sound, it is reported to be the best.  In comparisons to the 001 cable, I found it to create a more detailed sound with less sub-bass bloat.  However, you have to stay very still to keep the microphonics from affecting the sound.  I used this cable because I wouldn't have gotten the 334 if I wasn't interested in squeezing out the best out of it.  After using IEMs for a long time, I know how to avoid microphonic noise from banging the cable around.  The 000 cable is just more punishing if you don't know the rules of the game.

 

However, I'm pretty sure that if I wanted something really different from the 334, I would just get another IEM instead.  The cables alter the sound slightly but it is not a night and day difference.

 

I'm pretty sure it's the same case with the F111.  I don't know if I'd invest in the upgraded cables for it.


Edited by utdeep - 6/13/13 at 12:33pm
post #490 of 839
Thanks utdeep. I was just wondering about cables too sine someone was selling a 000 for $200 on the fs forum.
post #491 of 839
For sonic performance a cable with good conductivity will just make these warmer which isn't a good thing. If it has poor conductivity, you're better off adding impedance to make them brighter
post #492 of 839

gnarlsagan, I'm the one selling the 000 cable :)  After the F111 with biflanges, I went back to the 334 hoping it wouldn't cause my ear to ache with one of the comply tips.  I got a 000 cable and thought it sounded great.

 

However, my ears started to ache again.  It's just a miserable feeling.  I'm selling off the 334 and the 000 cable and giving up on IEMs.

post #493 of 839
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Originally Posted by utdeep View Post

I've owned all three cables.  The F111's stock cable is the 003 cable I think.  It's fairly soft and non-microphonic.  I only tested it with the F111s and I thought it was pretty good.  People have reported that they hear an improvement when using the 334's 001 cable.

 

The 334's stock cable is the 001.  It is slightly more rugged than the 003 and has an Oyaide straight connector instead of the 003's right angle connector.  It sounds pretty good but it is slightly microphonic.  I think it makes good compromises between durability, usability, and sound.

 

The special 000 cable is very stiff/durable and microphonic.  If you want the best sound, it is reported to be the best.  In comparisons to the 001 cable, I found it to create a more detailed sound with less sub-bass bloat.  However, you have to stay very still to keep the microphonics from affecting the sound.  I used this cable because I wouldn't have gotten the 334 if I wasn't interested in squeezing out the best out of it.  After using IEMs for a long time, I know how to avoid microphonic noise from banging the cable around.  The 000 cable is just more punishing if you don't know the rules of the game.

 

However, I'm pretty sure that if I wanted something really different from the 334, I would just get another IEM instead.  The cables alter the sound slightly but it is not a night and day difference.

 

I'm pretty sure it's the same case with the F111.  I don't know if I'd invest in the upgraded cables for it.

 

  Thanks very much for the detailed response. I was just trying to find out if any of the cables would brighten the treble just a little bit but i love the sound anyway so probably won't upgrade the cable. I think the next thing is to make the jump up to the next tier....you know...AKG 3003, FitEar 334, Tralucent 1 plus 2 ....That sort of thing... I adapt really well to different signatures but i guess i want more of everything... Air, refinement, bass quality, instrument seperation...

 

  I am greedy atsmile.gif  

post #494 of 839

Couldn't get hold of a 111iS so will have a regular 111 shipped today and hopefully receive Mondaynormal_smile%20.gif

 

Ahh it comes with 003 cable......hmm 

post #495 of 839

Any chance that alo will start to sell the F111 or the Parterre in the future?


Edited by klfl - 6/14/13 at 2:35pm
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