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Thanks for your insights Smeckles. I'm considering the CD-77.1 and the DAC2X (among a few others) and would like to hear more about your impressions of these two units: the CD-77 & DAC2X in particular.

 

Which sounds more "analog"? I think I know the answer to this already, but I'd like your take on it.

 

How about musicality?

 

Any thoughts on 3 dimensionality and soundstage between the two?

 

How about detail retrieval? I suspect they're both highly resolving with the nod possibly going to EMM, but I'd like your take on it.

 

Were your comparisons based on redbook vs redbook or redbook vs DSD? In your opinion does it matter? I'm of the opinion at this time that well recorded redbook can rival or well recorded DSD provided they are played back on equally well implemented systems using the same mastering. Further, I think the general consensus is that Redbook performs best on TDA1541A implementations, while there are many more opinions for playback of high res material.

 

When you were comparing them, were you using tube or ss amplification?

 

Thanks again, and I apologize for barraging you with questions (feel free to pass on any of them if you feel your recollection too vague, any insight you can provide would be helpful).

 

I have a chance to listen to these two units, but only in very different systems.

 

If I can chip in a few things - I think the EMM brings more of that analog feeling to the music. Having said that I have a vinyl set up as well and for me while PCM material is great it's the DSD material that really shines and gets much closer to analog. Somehow PCM is not able to do. While the difference between PCM 44 vs. 192khz material is one of better dimensionality, noise etc...DSD just seems more "organic" and "real". Amplification was SS all the way through.

 

On your comment about redbook rivaling DSD - no way!


Edited by harmonix - 1/27/13 at 4:42am
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If I can chip in a few things - I think the EMM brings more of that analog feeling to the music. Having said that I have a vinyl set up as well and for me while PCM material is great it's the DSD material that really shines and gets much closer to analog. Somehow PCM is not able to do. While the difference between PCM 44 vs. 192khz material is one of better dimensionality, noise etc...DSD just seems more "organic" and "real". Amplification was SS all the way through.

 

On your comment about redbook rivaling DSD - no way!

 

Agreed, there's a certain organic quality to DSD recordings that's hard to explain when contrasting to good PCM. I've heard that this is attributable in large part to the filtering done during recording, and then the playback filtering implemented during playback. Perhaps it's it less heavy handed than PCM? I can't say.

 

Re: Redbook; if you get a chance to hear well recorded Redbook over a valve rectified TDA1541A DAC implementation, it might surprise you. A few years back I listened to a Zanden 5000, which I believe has the highest end double crown S-2 version of this chip, and it was a unforgettable; some of the most natural sounding digital I've ever heard. What I was told was unlike Delta Sigma DACs, the TDA1541 filtering is not baked into the chip (which would be more cost effective, but purportedly not as good), so the filter implementation can be "over-engineered".

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