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T1 or LCD-2 or Edition 8 for electronic music?

post #1 of 21
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I am interested in buying one of these three used , not new. The genre i listen is everything that has electronic sounds.

 

What i want is nice treble. I dont care about mids. Also i would like to ask which of them has more sound leakage.Also because i listen a lot of time,  i don't want to get fatigue.

 

Thanks in advance

post #2 of 21

LCD-2!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

LCD-2!!!!!!!!

 

Convice me!

post #4 of 21

I have all 3 and I'd give the nod to the LCD-2 (mine is r1 though). D7000 is also an option if you like a more woofer-y bass presentation.

 

To answer your questions, T1 has the "nicest" treble, Edition 8 leaks the least (the others are fully open so leak everything) and LCD2 is least fatiguing.


Edited by shamrock134 - 7/10/12 at 1:24am
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I have all 3 and I'd give the nod to the LCD-2 (mine is r1 though). D7000 is also an option if you like a more woofer-y bass presentation.

 

To answer your questions, T1 has the "nicest" treble, Edition 8 leaks the least (the others are fully open so leak everything) and LCD2 is least fatiguing.

 

Thanks for your answer. The LCD need a lot of power for an amp?

The edition 8 dont they have something good?

post #6 of 21

the LCD-2 need a good amount of power, but nothing too crazy.

the T1 need a good amount of power too due to being 600 ohm, however, they're pretty efficient. 

whichever you buy, you will need to have a decent amp for them. 

 

 

the t1 very good detailed neutral headphones, but probably not the best for electronic, the LCD-2 are better for that.

the T1 do have clean treble though (detail, extended, accurate to source without any added sibilance)

 but it can be fatiguing on electronic (they are very revealing headphones and poor recordings will sound bright, harsh, or grainy), not to mention the treble peak. 

 

the LCD-2 are much more forgiving and have a sound thats better for electronic. they have a very nice bass slam and punch to them too, very tight, very clean sounding.

 

the Ed.8 are good too, but the LCD-2 are generally considered better overall. also i don't know how good the Ed. 8 are for longer listening sessions, i know ultrasones tend to have their own character, especially in the treble. they are good electronic phones generally though.


Edited by Dubstep Girl - 7/10/12 at 1:47am
post #7 of 21

Well to me the E8 is a bit like a closed T1. So unless you need it to be closed, portable and easily driven by DAPs get the T1 out of those two. Other people seem to hear more bass in their E8s than me but my one is definitely similar to the T1 in quantity (could be due to head size, S-logic and fit), perhaps a tiny bit more mid-bass emphasis.

 

I use a Schiit Lyr on the LCD2, but I'm sure it'll work fine out of less powerful amps.

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Originally Posted by shamrock134 View Post

I have all 3 and I'd give the nod to the LCD-2 (mine is r1 though). D7000 is also an option if you like a more woofer-y bass presentation.

 

To answer your questions, T1 has the "nicest" treble, Edition 8 leaks the least (the others are fully open so leak everything) and LCD2 is least fatiguing.

also D5000 due to the added midbass vs. the D7k (d7k is better for rap/hiphop imo, but does a good job at electronic too!) love their sparkly treble.

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also D5000 due to the added midbass vs. the D7k (d7k is better for rap/hiphop imo, but does a good job at electronic too!) love their sparkly treble.

 

Yes... as Markl suggests in his thread presenting his "Markl Mods," the MD5000's are quite possibly are the "World's Best" headphones!  

 

And... he is quite right... with his mods (simple DIY to tame the bass and highs, and bring out the mids)... and/or... the X-CAN v8 (low output impedence, high current output, which does the same).... they just may be - they've got it all!  One of the best sounds and values in all of "Headfidom!"


Edited by Gradofan2 - 7/10/12 at 5:11am
post #10 of 21

I'm probably going to be trying the T1 out soon and 80% of my listening is EDM but I've owned the LCD 2.2 and sold them for the HD800. 

 

It really depends on what kind of sound you want and what genres of Electronic music you listen to.

 

For me I listen to a lot of Downtempo, Ambient, mellow Dubstep, and Trance. The HD800s presentation for all these genres was better than the LCD 2 for me.

 

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The LCD 2 is probably your holy grail from what your first post sounds like but you need a major amp to make them shine. If you're not willing to give them that I'd stick to something easier to drive like the T1 (still needs a hefty amp from what I hear, but most seem to like it with even modest OTL designs).

 

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I'd also consider the D7000 in your price range (especially at recent used prices) if you're concerned about leakage. The T1 and LCD 2 are both open cans so if that's a really big concern the Ed8 would be your only choice, but I think that'd be a mistake. 

 

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I honestly think I could make a better suggestion with a better idea of what kind of Electronic music you like? Mid-bass centric Dubstep? House? Trance? Do you like really hard hitting kicks? Rumbling lows?

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I'm probably going to be trying the T1 out soon and 80% of my listening is EDM but I've owned the LCD 2.2 and sold them for the HD800. 

 

It really depends on what kind of sound you want and what genres of Electronic music you listen to.

 

For me I listen to a lot of Downtempo, Ambient, mellow Dubstep, and Trance. The HD800s presentation for all these genres was better than the LCD 2 for me.

 

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The LCD 2 is probably your holy grail from what your first post sounds like but you need a major amp to make them shine. If you're not willing to give them that I'd stick to something easier to drive like the T1 (still needs a hefty amp from what I hear, but most seem to like it with even modest OTL designs).

 

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I'd also consider the D7000 in your price range (especially at recent used prices) if you're concerned about leakage. The T1 and LCD 2 are both open cans so if that's a really big concern the Ed8 would be your only choice, but I think that'd be a mistake. 

 

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I honestly think I could make a better suggestion with a better idea of what kind of Electronic music you like? Mid-bass centric Dubstep? House? Trance? Do you like really hard hitting kicks? Rumbling lows?

 

Hi my friend

 

I listen to the same kind of music u listen to,  eg carbon based lifeforms,aes dana,bluetech , biosphere,entheogenic. For the beginning i will use the DOT MKIII to drive them. I have problem with open cans because i am not alone in the room. On the other hand i am afraid to lose the quality of open cans versus closed. I had the D2000 and i got dissapointed so i am afraid of the D7000. I have the HD650 but i found them tottaly boring.I would love a sound like my JVC Victor Fx-700. Lets take out the edition 8 because i dont have heard good words about them :)


Edited by Sotiris - 7/10/12 at 2:03pm
post #12 of 21

I have a similar taste in music and thinking about getting the HD800 (well actually still saving money)

 

Also consider the comfort factor of those headphones.

When listening and relaxing to some CBL I don't want the headphone to make me feel uncomfortable.

post #13 of 21

It's unfortunate that you wouldn't be totally comfortable using open headphones because soundstage is a huge plus for Ambient stuff and stuff like Bluetech. Less so for stuff like Carbon Based or your typical 4 on the floor stuff.

 

I'd also consider the Ultrasone Signature Pro (might be picking one of these up myself soon too). High end closed cans are few and far between so you kind of have to consider them all.

 

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Originally Posted by Sotiris View Post

 

Hi my friend

 

I listen to the same kind of music u listen to,  eg carbon based lifeforms,aes dana,bluetech , biosphere,entheogenic. For the beginning i will use the DOT MKIII to drive them. I have problem with open cans because i am not alone in the room. On the other hand i am afraid to lose the quality of open cans versus closed. I had the D2000 and i got dissapointed so i am afraid of the D7000. I have the HD650 but i found them tottaly boring.I would love a sound like my JVC Victor Fx-700. Lets take out the edition 8 because i dont have heard good words about them :)

 

The HD800 won't disappoint for Electronic music (again depending slightly on your favored sub genres).

 

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I have a similar taste in music and thinking about getting the HD800 (well actually still saving money)

 

Also consider the comfort factor of those headphones.

When listening and relaxing to some CBL I don't want the headphone to make me feel uncomfortable.

post #14 of 21

The HD800 will work well with electronica (I think due to the soundstage) or anything laid back if properly amped. Anything with a prominent beat (e.g. house or trance) or a lot of intensity (e.g. electro, dubstep) might present problems in the treble region. For those I prefer something more controlled in the treble region, like Audeze's offerings. The LCD-2 (Rev 1) and the LCD-3 are my favorite headphones overall for electronic music (again, mostly the more intense sub-genres). I can't speak to the T1 and the Edition 8.

post #15 of 21

I had the LCD-2 Rev 1, HD800 and the AD2000 at one stage and all work well with electronica. Out of the three, my favourite headphone is the AT. It's fast and has great base impact. On my system, the LCD-2 got a bit boomy. Apparently there is more treble on the Rev2 because that is why I sold my Rev 1s. The main reason I like the AD2000 is for the strong mids which you said isn't a priority. I don't think they completely dominate the treble region, instead make it not so ear piercing. The HD800 sometimes causes me pain. Time to try that damping mod I guess... or get some tube amp with rolled off highs... All three phones leaked as bad as each other.

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